Scarfo Sr is dead.

Post by **Pogo The Clown** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:34 am

Wasn't that the reason he was demoted as Capo (his trying to recruit Philly guys without permission)? Pretty sure that was written about somewhere.

Pogo

Post by **SonnyBlackstein** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:52 am

Pogo The Clown wrote:Wasn't that the reason he was demoted as Capo (his trying to recruit Philly guys without permission)? Pretty sure that was written about somewhere.

That would make sense. Jnr making a move to antagonize Merlino whilst he and his key guys were away.
Ive always thought Jnr getting knocked down whilst bringing in a ton of First plus $ straight to Amuso didnt make much sense by itself.

Though this could point to how much power Amuso actually has.

Post by **Rocco** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:16 pm

OlBlueEyesClub wrote:Yea, I figured it had to be NY and the guys that actually called the shots on the streets. So they weren't taking any direction from Amuso at that point? And they busted down Jr, and made the Perna's & Taccetta kids, basically without any input from Amuso?

I have no idea if Amuso was involved or privy to it. I do know that when JR got busted down to Soldier SR was livid and wrote a letter to JR calling the P & T's all rats ! lol

Post by **Rocco** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:39 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote:Wasn't that the reason he was demoted as Capo (his trying to recruit Philly guys without permission)? Pretty sure that was written about somewhere.

Pogo

I think its all stretch about Scarfo Jr wanting to take over Philly. And def not even doable even if he managed to pull a few guys away from Merlino. All that was JR and SR fucking with Merlino . Scarfo Jr was not well liked in N Jersey. Losing Merola was the beginning of a series of things that eventually led to Scarfo packing up and moving away from North Jersey. He was bumped down from acting Capo not long after moving down there.

Post by **santos** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:07 am

87 years alive..he did pretty well.

Post by **SonnyBlackstein** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:53 am

santos wrote:87 years alive..he did pretty well.

Not considering where he spent most of them.

Post by **DonnieB** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:20 pm

Still no info on a service?? Curious what kind of turn out he would get at this point

Post by **Rocco** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:21 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote:
santos wrote:87 years alive..he did pretty well.

Not considering where he spent most of them.

Right. God didn't like Scarfo so he made him live to be 87 in jail. Gotti got off easy died 10yrs in. That's the way to go when you got life. Look at Whitey Bulger. That guy won even though he is in jail in his 80s. He will kick it soon. He beat the Feds and Mob lol Had a nice 12-16yrs(I forget how long) on the run living in Sunny CA. $1mil in the wall to live off of.

Post by **SonnyBlackstein** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:39 pm

DonnieB wrote:Still no info on a service?? Curious what kind of turn out he would get at this point

Good question.

Any info gents?

Hope its covered.

Post by **UTC** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:03 pm

Never know with Bulger. He was always a health nut.

Post by **Rocco** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:30 am

Chucky wrote:Well Nicky Jr did approach Joe Ciancaglini Jr and Lou Fazzini, so he was reaching out to people and telling them they should report to him which is kinda brazen...I wonder if this was going on before he got bumped down from skipper. This also all occurred, Nicky Jr approaching people, before Merlino, Mazzone, Borgesi and John Ciancaglini were released from prison.

Scarfo Jr approached Lou Fazzini's brother. Not Lou. Licata and Lou really don't like little Nicky. I think Nick was probably too scared to approach Lou himself. If Lou looked at Nick the wrong way Nick would shit himself. Lou is a pretty massive guy and can be pretty intimidating. His brother is a large guy too but not made. It's well known that Licata doesn't like Scarfo Sr or Jr. To be honest I think the whole taking over Philly was more Hype then anything. I think it was a little of SR and JR trying to fuck with Merlino and his guys more then anything and also there was a a bit of propaganda by Newark area guys associated with the Lucchese's, Philly and Gambino family to get Nick pushed down and sent packing. Which worked it seems. When JR came out of prison the last time he was a lone duck in North Jersey w/ no real friends. No way that kid could have taken over Philly.

Post by **Snakes** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:41 am

Oldest imprisoned guys in each family:

Genovese: Louis Manna/87
Gambino: Frank Locascio/84
Lucchese: Matthew Madonna/81
Bonanno: Joseph DeSimone/82
Colombo: John Franzese/99
Chicago: Joseph Lombardo/88
Philadelphia: Salvatore Sparacio/95

Don't know enough about the other families to list theirs.

Post by **Rocco** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:43 am

how old is DiNapoli. he is in state prison

Post by **Snakes** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:44 am

81; a couple of months younger than Madonna.

Post by **BobbyPazzo** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:06 am

Rocco wrote:how old is DiNapoli. he is in state prison

Joey D parole eligibility has passed. Jan 17th. He should see the board within the month and if he gets parole it'll be a month after that.

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