More powerful, massino in his heyday or bellomo currently

[Attaboi 1]

I know that late 90's and early 2000's, Massino was the man. Does Barney match up currently?

[Hailbritain]

Bellomo easily

[Fughedaboutit]

Is this a joke?

[rayray]

One was a Genovese boss and the other a Bonanno boss, I'd say that about sums it up in who was more powerful.

[Pogo The Clown]

Depends how you define powerful. Massino arguably had greater influence in the late 90s-very early 2000s than Bellomo does today. Mainly because the LCN landscape has changed.


Pogo

[Angelo Santino]

Depends how you define powerful. Massino arguably had greater influence in the late 90s-very early 2000s than Bellomo does today. Mainly because the LCN landscape has changed.


Pogo

Something interesting I noticed: Russo, Crea and Bellomo are all current leaders who were previous acting bosses before going to prison, coming out and accepting the new leadership before eventually becoming leaders again. That's very different than say the 1970's where bosses were getting old and dying leaving acting bosses becoming official by default.

[Wiseguy]

Massino's heyday was what? Late 1990's/early 2000's? I'm not sure things have changed enough over the past 15-20 years to say Massino was more powerful than Bellomo is today, especially when the feds say the NY families are stronger than they have been in years. In my opinion, a good amount of Massino's clout came from from the fact he was the only remaining boss on the street by a certain point. Otherwise, it probably wouldn't have been him chairing that Commission meeting in 2000.

[Hailbritain]

This is not even a debate , it's bellomo then and it's bellomo now

[Pogo The Clown]

The Genovese family in 2017 being stronger than the Bonanno family in 1999/2000 is certainly up for debate.


Pogo

[Rocco]

past present and future. Barney wins because of the family he heads has always been larger and stronger and they are in more rackets then the Bonannos ever were raking in way more money.

[moneyman]

I would assume Bellomo has a higher net worth than Massino did in his heyday. I recall reading that Bellomo owns a huge building on the westside highway and various properties in Florida, but I'm not sure if that's correct.

[Attaboi 1]

That's exactly what I meant pogo thanks, maybe I could've worded the question better. Murders were more probable to happen back then, and lcn as a whole held more sway on the street and was feared more in general. Thanks for all the smart ass answers though.

[SonnyBlackstein]

The Genovese family in 2017 being stronger than the Bonanno family in 1999/2000 is certainly up for debate.


Pogo

No, it's not

[Wiseguy]

The Genovese family in 2017 being stronger than the Bonanno family in 1999/2000 is certainly up for debate.


Pogo

I suppose that's where we could get into an academic debate about how directly related the overall power of a family is to the individual power of a boss.

But as far as family vs family, I can't think of much that would give the late 1990s/early 2000s Bonannos the edge over the present day Genovese family.

[Pogo The Clown]

The Genovese family, like the 5 families and LCN as a whole, has weakened considerably since 1999. I'm not saying Bonannos 1999/2000 were stronger than Genovese 2017 because I don't know and it can be argued either way but they would be a lot closer than people think.


Pogo