Pogo The Clown wrote:Nah I just didn't know if you were around or remember the old debates about Rockford still having a family or not.
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Of course I do. I would like to forget them but somehow I cAnt. I think over the years some idiot has tried to say there was still Mafia activity in every defunct city, except Dallas. I can't remember any idiots bring Dallas up.
Yeah it was the RD. I do remember that goof joeychicago once claiming there were still families in Dallas and Madison.
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It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
Some people are claiming it's still active, but I am not so sure. I don't know enough to rule it out completely, so if I were to make a chart I wouldn't go past 2006: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/buffalo ... 6MO0CJ4S3I
23 members to be exact in 2006 - a boss, underboss, consigliere, 4 captains, and 16 soldiers. I've referred people to that article many times when the subject of Buffalo comes up. And, if course, several members have died over the past decade. Anything can be put in chart form but I don't think the feds have considered it a viable family in years. You have to go back 20 years to find the last significant case when LIUNA Local 210 was taken over.
4 captains for 16 soldiers? And you believe the Feds had that right? James Comey has destroyed any credibility the Feds have in regards to information, I'd hope you could buy that. You're a smart guy, these FBI announcements are horseshit.
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Cleveland had 4 Capos for only a handful of old and largely inactive Soldiers.
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It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
Some people are claiming it's still active, but I am not so sure. I don't know enough to rule it out completely, so if I were to make a chart I wouldn't go past 2006: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/buffalo ... 6MO0CJ4S3I
23 members to be exact in 2006 - a boss, underboss, consigliere, 4 captains, and 16 soldiers. I've referred people to that article many times when the subject of Buffalo comes up. And, if course, several members have died over the past decade. Anything can be put in chart form but I don't think the feds have considered it a viable family in years. You have to go back 20 years to find the last significant case when LIUNA Local 210 was taken over.
4 captains for 16 soldiers? And you believe the Feds had that right? James Comey has destroyed any credibility the Feds have in regards to information, I'd hope you could buy that. You're a smart guy, these FBI announcements are horseshit.
Are you serious? Because of Comey during the election that means we should throw out the window everything the FBI says about the mob even though they are, hands down, the best and most consistent source we have?
And why is what they said about Buffalo so hard to believe? Considering its in the northeast, 23 living members in 2006 is not unrealistic. Though I don't equate those members having ranks and being put on a chart to a functioning, viable family. In other words, I don't think the family intended to be so top heavy but it just ended up that way as attrition set in, guys died off, and the organization became too defunct to warrant a shuffling people around.
Lol @ NickelCity being among the people commenting on the Buffalo Family on that site. And that Too Corrupt guy barely sounds believable, if I understood correctly he says Joe Todaro Jr's son is the boss of the Italian & Sicilian Mafia, and then he cites the Godfather as an example. Or maybe I misunderstood and he meant that he's in charge of a sicilian faction within the Buffalo borgata, as well as being the boss of the family. Still I think they were dead after'06, like completely, regardless.
New to the site here.What happened to the Canadian faction/factions ? Are they still at all active or were they pretty much disbanded with the the hit on Johnny papalia ? Also, I know there were a few members caught in a massive cigarette smuggling operation bust/indictment in the early to mid 2000's involving executives I think from RJ Reynolds tobacco co. Totalling over half a billion dollars.I have to find the articles /names. I'll post them when I find them.Anyone have any info or know about this ?
In googling La Nova there are only two locations. Restaurants run by a skin of teeth margin and being there's only two there's really no way to know how successful the Todaro's are. One could be a money pit funded by the other, they both could be money pits, for all we know.
What does La Nova mean in English?
Google thinks it's Spanish not Italian.
There was also a more recent huge just involving basically the entire Operating Engineers union up there,I think 2014 or something, I'll post that as well .
SonnyBlackstein wrote:In googling La Nova there are only two locations. Restaurants run by a skin of teeth margin and being there's only two there's really no way to know how successful the Todaro's are. One could be a money pit funded by the other, they both could be money pits, for all we know.
What does La Nova mean in English?
Google thinks it's Spanish not Italian.
They have a national buffalo chicken wing that is a national product. It's sold in many different states. That's where the money comes from.
