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The Ribera Club finished building a large new facility a few years back. Have to imagine the place is a treasure chest of photos and possibly other info that would be relevant to this discussion. Maybe one of us can go undercover and pose as a Sicilian-American from Peterstown...
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B. wrote:The Ribera Club finished building a large new facility a few years back. Have to imagine the place is a treasure chest of photos and possibly other info that would be relevant to this discussion. Maybe one of us can go undercover and pose as a Sicilian-American from Peterstown...
If you go, I'll pitch in for the fake beard and glasses LOL
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Here's the new location if anyone's curious:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6531248 ... 56!6m1!1e1

Pretty big, fancy place. Wonder if the old guys lounging outside are anyone in particular...
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I bear a striking resemblance to Manny Riggi as a 30 year old although I probably weigh more.
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sdeitche wrote:
B. wrote:
Chris Christie wrote:
Antiliar wrote:
There were Riberesi with well-known surnames in Elizabeth by ~1905. Phil Amari was there by the 1930 census, with an informant saying he came to Elizabeth from NY in the 1920s and brought others from Ribera with him from NY. Seems the family was there by the 1920s.
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Funny, I was just writing on this last night and added: “other individuals who were originally from Ribera, Sicily, moved to Elizabeth from the New York area.”

It says Amari came from NY prior to moving to Elizabeth. Any idea where he lived/when he came to NY from Italy?
I'd like to point out that Elizabeth NJ is extremely close to Staten Island. In fact Elizabeth is closer to Staten Island then Brooklyn is.
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johnny_scootch wrote:
sdeitche wrote:
B. wrote:
Chris Christie wrote:
Antiliar wrote:
There were Riberesi with well-known surnames in Elizabeth by ~1905. Phil Amari was there by the 1930 census, with an informant saying he came to Elizabeth from NY in the 1920s and brought others from Ribera with him from NY. Seems the family was there by the 1920s.
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Funny, I was just writing on this last night and added: “other individuals who were originally from Ribera, Sicily, moved to Elizabeth from the New York area.”

It says Amari came from NY prior to moving to Elizabeth. Any idea where he lived/when he came to NY from Italy?
I'd like to point out that Elizabeth NJ is extremely close to Staten Island. In fact Elizabeth is closer to Staten Island then Brooklyn is.
Sounds like he was staying in Midtown Manhattan before NJ, but yeah a number of later guys lived in Staten Island. Most of the NY crew members were Brooklyn guys but I haven't seen any indication that the earliest DeCavs in NY were Brooklyn-based, which is interesting.

I mentioned a few of the Marlboro, NY connections earlier, but another one is that Carmelo Cocchiaro hid out there when he was on the run from a robbery. I wonder how/when Marlboro became a DeCav territory.
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Very close. Vinny Ocean would cruise right over the bridge to Peterstown back in the day. Vinny was in NJ all the time. Allot of the wanna' be Decav hanger ons were from SI as well.
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So given that it remains unclear the connection between Newark and Elizabeth, I'll include Newark but make a point to mention the discrepancies.

Antiliar, what's the suggested timeline? We have Bedami, D'Amico, Monaco? Since we're unsure of one another succeeding each other we don't need to list that. The modern Decavs are done it's the top of the chart I want to finish.

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Chris Christie, the image file won't enlarge, so I can't read it.
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It's the same one I PM'd you with. I don't really want to post a large one until it's finalized and I can't do that until the early stuff is a little more sorted.
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Thanks to Chaps for originally posting this here: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=435&p=31076&hilit= ... ore#p31076

1960
Newark T-7 advised that he had known Delmore for many years and while he had only in the last two years become active in the Elizabeth, New Jersey, area, there was no doubt in his mind or among the Italian element in Elizabeth, New Jersey, that Delmore was still "boss." He advised that it was taken for granted by people in Elizabeth that Delmore was boss, that Filippo Amari was next in line (informant advised Amari is presently in Sicily), m Emanuel Riggi, and then other lieutenants would be Sal Caternicchio, Joseph Sferra and a few other members of Local 394, Hod Carriers Union. Informants have advised in the past that Delmore is closely associated with Gerardo Catena and Vito Genovese, both of whom attended the meeting at Apalachin, New York, on November 14, 1957. During the past two years, Bureau Agents have observed Delmore meeting with Louis Larasso, Frank Majuri and [name redacted].

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P. AMARI, above, is identical with PHIL AMARI, who Union County Prosecutors RUSSELL MORSS described in December, 1957 as being the leader of the rackets in Union County, New Jersey. MORSS indicated that AMARI succeeded NICK DELMORE as racket king in Union County when DELMORE retired due to old age.

This contradicts what we believed, that Delmore succeeded Amari, sounds from this informant that it was the other way around.

And seems like T-7 gave us the structure in 1960:

Delmore - Boss
Amari - Next in line (Under or Consig)
Emanuel Riggi - (Under or Consig)
Caternicchio, Sferra - lieutenants

Perhaps Amari succeeded Delmore and then Majuri became under?
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Or maybe it did go from Amari to Delmore to Amari to Amari? Who knows?

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Chris Christie wrote:Thanks to Chaps for originally posting this here: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=435&p=31076&hilit= ... ore#p31076

1960
Newark T-7 advised that he had known Delmore for many years and while he had only in the last two years become active in the Elizabeth, New Jersey, area, there was no doubt in his mind or among the Italian element in Elizabeth, New Jersey, that Delmore was still "boss." He advised that it was taken for granted by people in Elizabeth that Delmore was boss, that Filippo Amari was next in line (informant advised Amari is presently in Sicily), m Emanuel Riggi, and then other lieutenants would be Sal Caternicchio, Joseph Sferra and a few other members of Local 394, Hod Carriers Union. Informants have advised in the past that Delmore is closely associated with Gerardo Catena and Vito Genovese, both of whom attended the meeting at Apalachin, New York, on November 14, 1957. During the past two years, Bureau Agents have observed Delmore meeting with Louis Larasso, Frank Majuri and [name redacted].

and

P. AMARI, above, is identical with PHIL AMARI, who Union County Prosecutors RUSSELL MORSS described in December, 1957 as being the leader of the rackets in Union County, New Jersey. MORSS indicated that AMARI succeeded NICK DELMORE as racket king in Union County when DELMORE retired due to old age.

This contradicts what we believed, that Delmore succeeded Amari, sounds from this informant that it was the other way around.

And seems like T-7 gave us the structure in 1960:

Delmore - Boss
Amari - Next in line (Under or Consig)
Emanuel Riggi - (Under or Consig)
Caternicchio, Sferra - lieutenants

Perhaps Amari succeeded Delmore and then Majuri became under?
We do know for certain that Nick Delmore succeeded Amari as Boss as every member source and several wiretaps state this fact. At some point Amari was forced to step down due to "rebellious factions beneath him." What exactly those particular circumstances are we don't know for sure but it is clear from the DeCavalcante tapes that he was not a popular Boss. After he stepped down he fled to Sicily. Delmore then took over and, upon his death, his nephew Sam DeCavalcante took over. This we know for sure.

What these other sources lead me to believe is that Delmore may have been Boss, retired, Amari takes over, is deposed, and the faithful old hand Delmore has to come out of retirement to take back the reigns. I have issues with this theory though. It flies in the face of established succession theory for this Family. It also would have made Delmore an early Boss of a decidedly Riberese Family. Other sources point out that the Ribera born members essentially founded the Family and Delmore was not from that part of Sicily. Although he would have to have become a member at some point and could have been Boss.

Sorry to muddy the waters but I personally believe the source I quoted was mistaken and had his shit backwards.
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Chris Christie wrote:I bear a striking resemblance to Manny Riggi as a 30 year old although I probably weigh more.
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