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Good point.Chris Christie wrote:The 1960's-1970's should stand as a testament to how well researched Hairyknuckles is; as well as Pogo and Wiseguy post-1980.
I hope it didn't come across like I was chastising you for omitting them because I wasn't. I appreciate your support for these (pain in the padded ass charts.) I just brought them up as a shout out because I'm incredibly impressed by HK's researching prowess in the 60's/70's and Pogo/Wiseguy's categorizing of the the recent eras. That's what makes this forum such a great place as we all can combine our efforts into something larger. Again, thanks buddy.SonnyBlackstein wrote:Good point.Chris Christie wrote:The 1960's-1970's should stand as a testament to how well researched Hairyknuckles is; as well as Pogo and Wiseguy post-1980.
My apologies and genuine thanks to HK, Pogo, Wiseguy and any other contributors.
Great work gents.
Came from Thom Hunt who had a forensic drawing recreated based on Maranzano's murder photos. It does look very similar to the Italo actor Rudolph Valentino but one of Maranzano's children bears a close resemblance.The Greek wrote:Great chart! Can you elaborate on the pic/drawing of Maranzano?
Both men yes... Before 1910 everyone was considered under Morello, which is true if you're referring to him as Boss of Bosses when everyone was technically under him. Dash did a great job but his work has its limitations, 3 Families existed in NY prior to 1910 and just like today they mingled and coexisted and were involved in joint ventures. The grocery racket was more Lupo's thing than Morello's although he was apart of it. For more info read the article by Antiliar, Lennert and myself which is about 70 pages with 30+ pages of sources. We break down the entire NYC mafia 1850-1920's: the lineage, the territory, blood relations, rackets etc.OlBlueEyesClub wrote:Once again, another amazing chart from you guys, and once again I really admire and appreciate you guys work and research. And Anthony Passananti, is that the same one whom supposedly committed suicide at the age of 94? And Costentino, same one who was a suspect in the murder of Petrosino? I wonder, as on this chart their listed as Bonannos, I wonder where they tie in with the Morello/Terranova clan, as in some other sources both men are identified as Morello members, and according to Mike Dash, Passananti headed a grocery racket for Morello, at one point. I take it you guys would know more about that subject than I currently do, just that it was interesting seeing them on this chart.
Came from Thom Hunt who had a forensic drawing recreated based on Maranzano's murder photos. It does look very similar to the Italo actor Rudolph Valentino but one of Maranzano's children bears a close resemblance.Chris Christie wrote:The Greek wrote:Great chart! Can you elaborate on the pic/drawing of Maranzano?
https://s28.postimg.org/dkyfublct/mar.jpgYears ago, I received some critical emails relating to my drawing of Maranzano. I hear that it resembles other people. To me, it looks quite a bit like my Sicilian great-grandmother. But I sincerely hope it looks most like Maranzano. I have never claimed that it was anything other than a rough approximation of Maranzano's appearance (unlike those who circulated and published a photo of someone else, claiming it was Maranzano). If a photograph of the living Maranzano ever surfaces, I would be very interested to compare it to my drawing (as well as to a photo of my great-grandmother).
As you probably know, we actually do have a number of images of Maranzano following his murder. There is a sketch made during the homicide investigation that shows his left side. There is a photograph taken of the crime scene from Maranzano's left side. There is a photograph taken from above. My drawing was created by cleaning up as well as possible the two death photos, rotating and skewing them, and filling in questionable details with details from the sketch (chin, earlobes, hairline, nose, etc.).
I saved some images during the cleaning up process. They are attached (see smard.jpg) along with the initial murder photos (smara1, smara2, smarb, smarc). The first drawing I created from these was based upon the left side photo of the dead Maranzano. That view initially seemed to present the best opportunity for a lifelike image. The result is also attached (smare.jpg). I was not happy with this, as it did not have the weight or some of the other details of the overhead and sketch images, and the shape of the nose needed to be almost entirely created.
I really don't understand why this has become a problem. If people feel that the drawing does not resemble Maranzano, I respect their view. If they think it looks like Errol Flynn or Shelley Winters (you know, now that I look at it...) or Michael Jackson, I don't mind in the slightest. If anyone wishes to create a different/more accurate image from the originals, he or she would have my full support.
Edit: Sorry, wrote the wrong street name in my initial post. Below is the corrected.OlBlueEyesClub wrote:And no one knows how to get the exact address for Joe Bonanno's home that he lived in in Hempstead in the 40's-50's?
