Genovese Hierarchy 1897 to Present Day

[Cheech]

Buckaloo was comsiglieri for a time or no?

[Angelo Santino]

1957-1959
B- Gen
U- Catena
C- Miranda

1959-1962
B- Gen (IP)
AB/Under - Catena
Acting Under - Strollo
C- Miranda

1962-1969
B-Gen
AB/Under - Catena
Acting Under - Eboli
C-Miranda

1969-1971
B- Catena
U- Eboli
C- Miranda

[Antiliar]

Buckaloo was comsiglieri for a time or no?

Yes, according to some sources (or a source) Antonio "Buckaloo" Ferro was the consigliere from 1976-78.

This is from poster MightDR:

According to Vincent Cafaro, Buckaloo became consigliere in 1976 and was replaced by Fat Dom Alongi in 1978.

In "Bugs, Bulls and Rats" by Frank Palmeri (pseudonym), he says Buckaloo was Philip Lombardo's right-hand man. He did a lot of running around conducting family business while Lombardo stayed in the background. He goes on to say that Buckaloo had a massive stroke in the summer of 1978 and died at 56 years old. "The wake was held in the Bronx. Anyone who was anyone showed up at Buckaloo's wake to show respect".

I also read an article in the NY Times from 1968 on police corruption that mentioned Buckaloo. It said he was 57 years old at the time (contradicting Palmeri) and lived at 2253 First Avenue. "Although Ferro's police record goes back to 1937, he has been convicted only of disorderly conduct and vagrancy". The article implies that Buckaloo controlled all the numbers on Pleasant Avenue for Tony Salerno and it cost him $600 a month in police protection.
Here's a the link:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 8383679EDE

I think there's a possibility that Vincenzo Terranova was the boss between Salvatore Loiacono and Joe Masseria.

[Angelo Santino]

I think there's a possibility that Vincenzo Terranova was the boss between Salvatore Loiacono and Joe Masseria.

Yes, we discussed this before but it's guesswork, for all we know Angelo Reina was. After Loicano and before Masseria there was a war as well as an internal split and much of it is lost to history. If V. Terranova was "a boss" it was of a split faction that most likely was not recognized by anyone outside of the Morello-Masseria network for a very short time. We could argue that he was the capo of Harlem but even that's questionable as the info just doesn't exist. (And given that I don't have a photo, I don't want to waste a "row" space on it.) Similar to Angelo Caruso and Joe N Gallo being interim leaders for 10 days total between 'The Boss" dying and a new one's appointment, I don't find it relevant anymore than Joe Lonardo going to Sicily for vacation for a few weeks in the 20's and his brother allegedly being acting boss during that time. I'm sure when JB went to Sicily to discuss drug routes in the 50's (which he denies) I'm sure he had an acting boss during his vacation as well.) We have the draw the line somewhere, to go any further we have to include times when Don Carlo requested the captains see P. Castellano for the next week due to some gastric indigestion because Pepcid AC wasn't on the market yet

However, I value your take very much. If you feel Vincent Terranova was that important, I'll list him. But to be honest I don't think his "tenure", if he even had one, was anymore relevant than Caruso between Maranzano and Bonanno or Gallo between Castellano and Gotti or Ettore whatever between Lucchese and Tramunti.

Yes, according to some sources (or a source) Antonio "Buckaloo" Ferro was the consigliere from 1976-78.

I'll include it. In fact, in regards to our phone talk I agree, I think we should "source" everything.

The early stuff is SS/Flynn/Palma.
Then there's Gentile/Valachi/Bonanno.

I just got into the 1970's and sent HK a PM about how to handle this next era as well as how we can source everything. When we get into the 80's on I'll ask Pogo and Wiseguy for their sources. Given the grew area of some of this I might have to include some text boxes, meaning it won't be as clear-cut as the previous Gambino one we made.

[Angelo Santino]

And one more thing to all. The first part of this chart is the same succession for what became the Luccheses, it will just take a different trajectory after 1923. If you guys want to knock out a Lucchese chart we can. Any takers I'll start another thread on that network. For now I'm stuck in the 1970's where this family becomes a major pain in the ass. Again thanks to HK, Pogo, WG.

[HairyKnuckles]

Buckaloo was comsiglieri for a time or no?

Only according to Cafaro. No evidence for Ferro being consigliere whatsoever though.

[Cheech]

Are we throwing Cafaro out?

[HairyKnuckles]

Are we throwing Cafaro out?

No. Overall, I´d say he´s a good source. But some stuff he said is weird. For example the front boss thing, Ferro, his induction in 1974 and some other things.

[Angelo Santino]

There seems to be alot of conflicting information on the 1970's consiglieri. At different and at the same times we have Lombardo, Ardito, Ferro, Salerno and Alongi. Putting all of this into one chart (with limited space) is proving rather challenging.

1974 until 1977 we can agree that Tieri is the Boss. Zeccardi is the underboss. With Consigliere we depart into two various and conflicting lines of succession.

1st Succession:
John Ardito - 1974-1977
Dominick Alongi - 1977-1980

2nd Succession:
Lombardo 1974-1976
1) Acting - Antonio Ferro - 1976-1978 (Source - Cafaro)
2) Acting - Salerno 1976 - 1977 - Allegedly became underboss
Gigante - 1977 - 1980

Do I understand this accurately? What are the sources for these individuals?

[Pogo The Clown]

I don't recall Lombardo ever being listed as the Consiglieri during the 70s. Is my memory playing tricks on me?


Pogo

[Angelo Santino]

I don't recall Lombardo ever being listed as the Consiglieri during the 70s. Is my memory playing tricks on me?


Pogo

3rd post down, Antilliar/HK
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1891&p=32689&hilit ... ito#p32689

This is what HK posted in the other forum:
This is how I understand the Genovese hierarchy to have been:

1970:

Boss - Catena (IP)
Underboss - Tommy Ryan (acting boss, killed in 1972)
Consigliere - Mike Miranda

Funzi Tieri may have served briefly as the acting boss. There is also some indication of a ruling panel briefly installed in 1970. An informant tells about a "commission" consisting of the top three ranking members.

1972:

Boss - Catena (IP, stepped down in 1973 or early 1974)
Underboss - ?/vacant
Consigliere - Mike Miranda (died in 1973)
Acting boss - Tieri or Philip Lombardo

1974:

Boss - Tieri (bad health in 1974)
Underboss - Eli Zeccardi
Consigliere - vacant, but this position later was filled by Lombardo (who suffered as stroke in 1975)

A ruling panel consisting of Pete DeFeo plus two other guys (not identified) was in place while Tieri was sick. Some indications points at Zeccardi became acting boss after dismantling of ruling panel. Lombardo´s position taken over by either Anthony Ferro or Tony Salerno, most likely on acting basis. In 1976 however, Salerno was official or acting consigliere. Ferro in prison.

1977:

Boss - Tieri
Underboss - Zeccardi (murdered in 1977)
Consigliere - Lombardo (still suffering from stroke) or Salerno (who was made underboss after Zeccardi´s murder)

Salerno was indicted in 1977, imprisoned in 1978 (six months). Some indications point at Rosario "Sally Young" Palmieri became underboss (probably acting). According to Gravano, Dom Alongi was upped to consigliere in 1976, but he was probably wrong about the year. Gigante may have served as acting consigliere in late 1970s due to Alongi being sick. When John "Buster" Ardito was arrested in 1979, some newspaper clippings claimed he was the consigliere.

1980:

Boss - Tieri (under indictment, taken down later in 1980)
Underboss - Salerno (made acting boss while Tieri was under indictment)
Consigliere - Possible still Lombardo (made acting underboss while Tieri under indictment) or Alongi (who died in 1980).

Possibly Gigante served as acting consigliere after Alongi´s death. After Tieri was taken down, a ruling panel of Salerno, Lombardo and Gigante was installed. The ruling panel was dismantled in February 1981 when Salerno suffered a mild stroke.

1981:

Boss - Lombardo (retired later same year)
Underboss - Salerno
Consigliere - Gigante (made boss after Lombardo´s retirement)

Bobby Manna was made consigliere after Gigante was upped to boss.

Any help or clarification (with sources) would be appreciated.

[Pogo The Clown]

Thanks. That just makes the 70s era even more confusing.


Pogo

[Angelo Santino]

Is there a photo of Rosario Palmieri? He's the only guy who's photo I am lacking post 1930 besides the mysterious and illusive "Che Gusae."

[Snakes]

As we get stuff confirmed I can update the Wikipedia entries. I know it sounds like a waste of time but a lot of misinformation originates there so maybe having the correct info listed there may change some longstanding mistakes people have had.

[Snakes]

CC, you have a bigger photo of the Gambino chart?

Edit: Nevermind, found it