Revisiting the Magaddino transcript - names

[bronx]

russo was a captain at one point.he owned cusimano and russo funeral home joe cusimano made old timer was his partner..neil and rave were trying to make a move started by killing a very well liked roberts, it was a sneak hit..neil survived and peace was made , how i do not have that info..

[bronx]

castellans were from bensonhurst going back 100 years paul went to p.s. 163 .elementary school

[bronx]

ill throw another name out there, the rumore's..harlem based turn of century,then lower nyc.. with gallo, piney ,dongarra.later on..father was killed during daquila days..both sons made..ran teamsters local forever..

[bronx]

anyone , can you find info on pauland tom massotta

[dimaggio]

Is there any info on why Robilotto got released from the Genovese? I assume he was still with them at the time of the Moretti murder.

Its said Roberts was never made because one of his brothers Benny Robilotto was a cop. But that's strange because it says that this brother was in business with Jon Diogaurdia and was building mansions in Florida and buying restaurants. Pretty good on a cop salary

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https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 4&tab=page

Interesting, but that file doesn't actually say Johnny Roberts wasn't made. As it's always been understood that he was a made guy, according to Valachi and much later sources. As was already pointed out on the previous page. I never knew his brother had been a cop though, so this is a good find for me, thanks for the info, man.

Sorry...wasnt made with the genoveses. Got made with anastasia when he went over to them.

[HairyKnuckles]

EDIT: I looked up the brother of Salvatore Chiri, Joseph Carl Chiri. He came from Palermo in 1903 under the name Giuseppe Chiri, so there's no indication of them being from Trabia or their surname being Chirico.

So we´re back at square one...right?

Not sure if I follow correctly. Are you saying that the FBI thought that the US entry for the 11 year old boy (Salvatore Chirico) was Chiri´s entry? If so, Chiri´s entry to the US could very well have been in 1901, like the 1930 census says. The question remains though...who the heck was Salvatore Chirico/Chiricho both Bonanno and Gentile refers to and the FBI claims was a very important figure within the NY Mafia?

[Antiliar]

EDIT: I looked up the brother of Salvatore Chiri, Joseph Carl Chiri. He came from Palermo in 1903 under the name Giuseppe Chiri, so there's no indication of them being from Trabia or their surname being Chirico.

So we´re back at square one...right?

Not sure if I follow correctly. Are you saying that the FBI thought that the US entry for the 11 year old boy (Salvatore Chirico) was Chiri´s entry? If so, Chiri´s entry to the US could very well have been in 1901, like the 1930 census says. The question remains though...who the heck was Salvatore Chirico/Chiricho both Bonanno and Gentile refers to and the FBI claims was a very important figure within the NY Mafia?

It appears that way. I doubt there's anyone alive for me to question how they came to the conclusion to confirm, but I came to the conclusion because that's the manifest given in the FBI file. They got that info from the naturalization that Chiri applied for, so I went thru every page of the passenger list and the 11-year-old is the one with the closest name. It would explain why Chiri started his naturalization process but canceled. Yes, he probably did come in 1901, but maybe not legally.

There's a listing for Palermo birth index records here, but unfortunately 1888 is not complete: https://sites.google.com/site/palermobirthshub/home

But I did confirm that his other brother Giuseppe (Joseph Carlo Chiri) was born in Palermo: https://3c144ce3-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.goo ... edirects=0

[HairyKnuckles]

EDIT: I looked up the brother of Salvatore Chiri, Joseph Carl Chiri. He came from Palermo in 1903 under the name Giuseppe Chiri, so there's no indication of them being from Trabia or their surname being Chirico.

So we´re back at square one...right?

Not sure if I follow correctly. Are you saying that the FBI thought that the US entry for the 11 year old boy (Salvatore Chirico) was Chiri´s entry? If so, Chiri´s entry to the US could very well have been in 1901, like the 1930 census says. The question remains though...who the heck was Salvatore Chirico/Chiricho both Bonanno and Gentile refers to and the FBI claims was a very important figure within the NY Mafia?

It appears that way. I doubt there's anyone alive for me to question how they came to the conclusion to confirm, but I came to the conclusion because that's the manifest given in the FBI file. They got that info from the naturalization that Chiri applied for, so I went thru every page of the passenger list and the 11-year-old is the one with the closest name. It would explain why Chiri started his naturalization process but canceled. Yes, he probably did come in 1901, but maybe not legally.

There's a listing for Palermo birth index records here, but unfortunately 1888 is not complete: https://sites.google.com/site/palermobirthshub/home

But I did confirm that his other brother Giuseppe (Joseph Carlo Chiri) was born in Palermo: https://3c144ce3-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.goo ... edirects=0

Right. So this could mean that Chiri and Chirico were the one and the same guy and that Chiri´s lawyer (perhaps) looked up the passangers manifest and found the 11 year old´s entry to be used for Chiri´s naturalization process, consealing that Chiri actually entered the US illegally. But that doesn´t ecplain why Bill Bonanno said his home was in the Fordham section in the Bronx, when he actually lived in NJ. Who knows, Chiri may have had multiple homes at the time?

[B.]

A book about Apalachin (not sure how credible it is) has Chiri as being born August 1888 in Villa Scalia, which is hard to locate but appears to have been in Palermo. Would be curious where they got "Villa Scalia" from.

Some of this has been discussed already, but just going over it all in my head...

Toto Chirico is mentioned by Gentile as a close affiliate of top members of the Palermitani family like Mangano, Biondo, and Anastasia during the 1920s and 30s. All three of these men would form the administration of that family in 1931. Chirico disappears from view at this point. Later, Salvatore Chiri is mentioned by multiple sources as a member of the same family's administration during the 1950s (generally as underboss, though one MF doc calls him consigliere) after Mangano is killed, Biondo is demoted, and Anastasia becomes boss. This doesn't tell us much, but it does suggest there could be continuity between Chirico and Chiri if we go by relationships and status alone.

However, the Bonannos refer to a high-ranking Gambino member from the 1950s era as "Chirico" and not "Chiri". What Rick found about the young ship passenger Chirico and its connection to Chiri's naturalization attempt seems to be too much of a coincidence and seems deliberately deceptive on Chiri's part. After all, he was a major underworld figure who most likely entered the country illegally. I would guess he adopted the alias Chirico after the similarly named boy and may have used that name in some circles, which is why Gentile and Bonanno knew him that way. How he found a random passenger with a similar name is anyone's guess, but we have had similar questions about how Antonio Riela stole the identity of a man with the same name, too. Maybe he simply went through some directory or listing somewhere.

This doesn't explain why Bill Bonanno mentioned a palatial Bronx home in all of this, but Bill makes many small mistakes like that (D'Aquila being an NJ mobster, for one) and Chiri DID have a palatial home in New Jersey (look up 2 Bridle Way in Ft. Lee, NJ). Bill likely didn't know Chiri very well, if at all, and it's not as if he was taking written notes on every detail when his father told him about this Commission meeting. Seems pretty easy to brush this discrepancy aside.

Chiri is generally listed as Salvatore Charles Chiri, but Charles appears to have been the name publicly he used in many cases. His SSDI lists him simply as Charles Chiri, same with a census record. If Charles was his middle name, it would have been Americanized from another name, possibly Carlo or Calogero. You mentioned his brother's middle name being Carl, so seems possible they both had the middle name Carlo originally. He could have also adopted "Charles" from "Salvatore" like Luciano did. I've tried using the names Salvatore Carlo Chiri and just Carlo Chiri as a possible lead with no results. Unfortunately I can't find any leads from his wife or daughters, either.

I believe Chiri has to be the same person who Bonanno and Gentile refer to as Chirico. His age, affiliation, and underworld status all point to it and it does seem Rick has found something that, while confusing, points to a connection between the names Chiri and Chirico.

[nash143]

Don't mean to digress, but found this.

[B.]

Actually, one lead I've found from researching Chiri's wife and daughters is that they were all born in NYC, with at least the older daughter having been born in the Bronx and the family still living in NYC as of 1929 when the younger daughter was born. The 1940 census has the whole Chiri family's last place of residence as Yonkers. It's not Fordham, but it does point to a potential Bronx connection (assuming Bill B was in the ballpark).

EDIT: they were still living in Yonkers as of 1934.

[bronx]

the villa scalia, could be from the royal scalia's as in prince scalia, but they were from agrigento area , naro..ect.

[B.]

Turns out the info comes from Chiri's FBN file. Says he was born in "Villa Scalia, Palermo".

Also, I re-read Bill Bonanno's description of "Chiricho's" home for the 1951 Commission meeting, which he says was in Pelham Bay. He says it was a large home at the end of a secluded street near the bay. Well, looking at Chiri's home in Palisade (which is now considered Ft. Lee), it is a large home at the end of a secluded street that overlooks the Hudson River. He goes into detail about the inside of the home but it's impossible to know how much of that matches. Location aside, the description of the homes is pretty damn close.

[Raven]

I have found 2 more documents on the Mary Farrell website.

1st says that in December of 1958 an informant reported Rava had been missing:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... =rava_1958

The 2nd gives yet a 3rd account of his murder but states it was in approx. Dec 1958:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 1&tab=page

I think either the FBI or Konesberg has Andrew "Mingie" Avellino and Salvatore "Toddo" Avarello (Aurello) mixed up.

[AlexfromSouth]

Great work Rave!