Another Montreal hit

[SonnyBlackstein]

When was the last time a non Italian waged a protracted war against the mafia in a city with a heavy mob presence?

Danny Green?

For Reynald Desjardines to be waging a war with out support, or in conjunction with another Italian faction, would be highly unlikely.

I'd suggest his involvment with current headlines is minimal.

[Slumpy]

The media also seems to think it's a Calabrian faction carrying out most of the violence in Montreal. Desjardins (and someone correct me if I'm wrong here) was more or less just an associate of the Rizzuto family, correct? I can't imagine he has that many allies that he could wage a personal war against the Rizzutos. To me it seems like it's a group that's grown out of the old Cotroni/Violio faction.

[Slumpy]

Violi*

As someone who makes typos in every post, I hate that you can't edit posts.

[Teflon john]

I am just stating my opinion but i dont think its Desjardins people doing this.He ,to my knowledge,has been locked up for a while and will probably stay that way,so what would he personally have to gain. Everything is speculation and we may never know. My guess is someone in the Rizzuto ranks that is younger,greedier and more power hungry than these old guys that like being in the shadows and low key.

[dixiemafia]

He was forced to hit Montagna. It was kill or be killed. Also, he used his most trusted men for the job, now they're all in jail. I'm not sure whether he wants to risk his change for a reduced sentence by ordering high-profile hits from jail and without being to able coordinate it himself, like he did with Montagna. Also, i'm sure they keep a close eye on him after he was caught using a mobile phone and because of the threat made on his life. He's in the same kind of situation as Rizzuto was before he got out, who wasn't able to do anything until he came home.

It might be people allied with Desjardins doing this, but I doubt he's calling the shots himself.

He's more than likely on the Rizzuto hit list too, so saying it was kill or be killed goes for him no matter what.

He's getting a reduced sentence no matter what, that's why he agreed to a plea deal to begin with. Not to mention he benefits by every day being behind bars after he is sentenced as he is almost getting 2 days for every day served until his sentencing. That is why they keep delaying.

It was also rumored he had more than a cellphone, it was rumors he even had a damn desktop computer in his cell. There was rumors even the guards were working for him before, so like I say he has some clout in Canada and it hasn't disappeared just because he is behind bars. It's not like he is in Supermax like Vito was. Huge difference. But like I say, it's very possible he is NOT behind the killings. I think it is very plausible he could have been behind Rocco's death and I can see why he wasn't as well. But if you think he lost all his power simply because he is in prison you would be sadly mistaken. Especially in Canada. He is not outside his own country and not to mention has much more time out than Vito had in Supermax which was 30 minutes of calls a day. Even Mom Boucher was in on the conspiracy to hit Desjardins, if he is able to see family you know good and damn well Desjardins gets more time than that as Boucher is one of the most hated criminals in Canadian history.

As for the Calabrian faction theory people forget he was a part of that faction, he married a Calabrian. Di Maulo was his brother in law, so it's no surprise that he is aligned with them and/or they are using him.

[SonnyBlackstein]

But if you think he lost all his power simply because he is in prison you would be sadly mistaken.

Im genuinely curious as to what you know that no one else does?

You're from the south I assume (your handle is a reference to the Mason-Dixon Line?), and I don't bring that up in a derogatory fashion.
I'm simply curious as to how you know Desjardines didn't lose his power when he went to prison.

The above statement says that those who believe he lost his power upon prison are 'sadly mistaken'.

Why?

[Lupara]

He's getting a reduced sentence no matter what, that's why he agreed to a plea deal to begin with.

That remains to be seen as he's yet to be sentenced. And ordering hits from jail isn't going to help his plea deal and getting early parole.

[scagghiuni]

it seems there are two strong factions at war, the rizzuto's and the other one, that's why it is a never ending conflict
media said the rizzuto's are gone since 2009 but it's fake leonardo rizzuto is currently a leading mafia member

[Lupara]

it seems there are two strong factions at war, the rizzuto's and the other one, that's why it is a never ending conflict
media said the rizzuto's are gone since 2009 but it's fake leonardo rizzuto is currently a leading mafia member

I doubt that Leonardo, as a former lawyer, has what it takes to remain in power. I think his life is in danger if or when he comes out. Stefano Sollecito has as much change to die from cancer as from a bullet. Things are looking grim for them right now, with their key allies being killed one by one. Vito Rizzuto was able to turn the tide because of the immense respect people had for him. He had built up a strong reputation in a decades long criminal carreer at the top and because of that he had a strong base of support. This is not the case for Stefano and Leonardo who basically filled the vacuum Vito left behind before anybody else could. They weren't established enough to gain unanimous recognition as leaders. Montagna had the same problem and he didn't last either.

[dixiemafia]

But if you think he lost all his power simply because he is in prison you would be sadly mistaken.

Im genuinely curious as to what you know that no one else does?

You're from the south I assume (your handle is a reference to the Mason-Dixon Line?), and I don't bring that up in a derogatory fashion.
I'm simply curious as to how you know Desjardines didn't lose his power when he went to prison.

The above statement says that those who believe he lost his power upon prison are 'sadly mistaken'.

Why?

Here is a quote from a story Hollander posted over on GBB:

Raynald Desjardins

62 years

While we did not give expensive of his skin there only a year and would have even been the subject of a murder plot by former soldier of the Hells Angels Maurice Boucher, it seems that the guy has taken the bull by the horns in recent months and that its influence is still real. Desjardins still has a team on the ground to defend its interests. However, it may spend several years in prison, who soon know his sentence after pleading guilty in July 2015 of conspiracy to murder of Salvatore Montagna. Desjardins is one of the clan leaders who tried to overthrow the Rizzuto in 2009-2010, according to police.

[JCB1977]

Canada fascinates me. It's still old school over there and they don't give a fuck who knows it. They're leaving bodies everywhere. Great thread.

[Teflon john]

Thats the same reason Canada facinates me JCB,they leave em where they find em,its alot like the U.S. was 30-40 years ago.

[JCB1977]

A lot like the U.S was 60-70 years ago. Sicilians v Calabrians and Neapolitans, not these 3rd and 4th generation Italian Americans who grew up in the burbs and wanna be gangsters.

[JCB1977]

I'm reading a book on Calabrians in Australia right now called Evil Life, read the sixth family and bought about a dozen books on OC in Canada and Calabrians. Fascinating.

[Teflon john]

Business or Blood,the book about Vito is a great book,the best OC book i have read in a very long time.