Bonanno Info (1980s - 2000s)
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Great stuff JD.
Very interesting regards Sciascia. Always thought the Graziano 'reason' was unusual and thin. The above makes much more sense. Especially in the lack of response/discontent from Canada.
Very interesting regards Sciascia. Always thought the Graziano 'reason' was unusual and thin. The above makes much more sense. Especially in the lack of response/discontent from Canada.
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Great stuff JD. Is Peter Ligammari still alive?
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Extremely surprised DiCocco was a made BONANNO. I´ve always considered him as a Genovese associate with the Springfield crew. He was arrested with that crew back in the 1980s on gambling charges.
JD, Dino Cammarano could be Joe Cammarano Jr. Perhaps the son was nicknamed "Dino"?
Pogo, Peter (Pietro) Ligamarri committed suicide with his father in 1999.
JD, if I may ask, where did you find this induction list?
Good info!
EDIT - it looks like Cammarans Sr did have a son named Dino.
JD, Dino Cammarano could be Joe Cammarano Jr. Perhaps the son was nicknamed "Dino"?
Pogo, Peter (Pietro) Ligamarri committed suicide with his father in 1999.
JD, if I may ask, where did you find this induction list?
Good info!
EDIT - it looks like Cammarans Sr did have a son named Dino.
There you have it, never printed before.
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HairyKnuckles wrote:Pogo, Peter (Pietro) Ligamarri committed suicide with his father in 1999.
Thanks HK.
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Very interesting, notably the revelation that Sciascia killed Frank Cotroni's son because he had hurt his nephew. I'm thinking this nephew could be Joe Renda. This put things into a whole different perspective. I'm wondering if this put a strain on the relationship between the Cotronis and the Rizzutos. It was their paesano who orchistrated the murder of Paolo Cotroni and Cotroni consequently pressured the Bonanno admin to kill Sciascia.
The other info on the Bonannos and Montreal comes as no suprise to me at this point.
The other info on the Bonannos and Montreal comes as no suprise to me at this point.
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Great information as usual! Thanks!
The Sciascia murder is interesting. Paolo Cotroni was murder on August 23, 1998 and Sciascia in March 1999. Gerard Gallant, a prolific independent Quebec hitman, later turned informant and admitted murdering Cotroni. Gallant may not have completely been aware of the reason for the Cotroni murder, but he reported that the contract came from the Rock Machine (whom he had done multiple hits for). Police suspect that it came from Rock Machine member Johnny Plesico, who had previously warned Cotroni to stop dealing with the Hells Angels. In response to Cotroni's murder, as well as the ongoing biker war, Plesico was killed only weeks after Cotroni, on September 8, 1998.
It makes you wonder if Massino was using the Cotroni murder as another excuse to murder Sciascia or if Sciascia was double-dealing and actually played a part in influencing Cotroni's murder? The mob in Montreal had stronger connections to the Hells Angels then Rock Machine, but who knows. If what Massino is claiming is true, it is interesting to see that there was still that type of connection between New York and Montreal at that time.
If you want to read more about Gallant there is great French article (which you can google translate) with a bunch of crime scene photos:
http://www1.journaldemontreal.com/2014/ ... jour1.html
The Sciascia murder is interesting. Paolo Cotroni was murder on August 23, 1998 and Sciascia in March 1999. Gerard Gallant, a prolific independent Quebec hitman, later turned informant and admitted murdering Cotroni. Gallant may not have completely been aware of the reason for the Cotroni murder, but he reported that the contract came from the Rock Machine (whom he had done multiple hits for). Police suspect that it came from Rock Machine member Johnny Plesico, who had previously warned Cotroni to stop dealing with the Hells Angels. In response to Cotroni's murder, as well as the ongoing biker war, Plesico was killed only weeks after Cotroni, on September 8, 1998.
It makes you wonder if Massino was using the Cotroni murder as another excuse to murder Sciascia or if Sciascia was double-dealing and actually played a part in influencing Cotroni's murder? The mob in Montreal had stronger connections to the Hells Angels then Rock Machine, but who knows. If what Massino is claiming is true, it is interesting to see that there was still that type of connection between New York and Montreal at that time.
If you want to read more about Gallant there is great French article (which you can google translate) with a bunch of crime scene photos:
http://www1.journaldemontreal.com/2014/ ... jour1.html
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Love the info, JD. More names that can be traced back to the early 1900s, if not the late 1800s.
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This is awesome info JD, and very much appreciated
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I remember vitale talking about an old zip he didn't know being a shooter in the 3 captains it , always thought the 4 shooters were vitale , rizzuto , giordano and Ragusa ?? What part did giovanni liggamari play ?? He was photed the day after with rizzuto and sciascia ??JD wrote:The Bonanno induction list was seized by the FBI in 1998 and the info is included in documents I'm skimming through. For whatever reason Gotti Jr. kept the lists around for years after the fact. Most have turned up online via GLN or other news sites.
More on Colombos and Bonannos. What stands out, particularly with the Bonannos, is how well the info matches up with other available sources.
1.) Salvatore Ferrugia was elected Acting Boss through vote of the captains in Spring 1981. He won eight to seven against someone unspecified, and had support of the Massino-Napolitano group as well as the Sicilians. Also sounds like Ferrugia, assisted by Sciascia, was a lot more active in running things than previously assumed. Underboss spot vacant until 1984.
2.) Murder of 3 Bonanno Captains: The mysterious 'old timer' identified by Vitale as part of the hit squad was someone with the last name Bonventre. Another gunman was Frank 'Cheech' Navarra, who had already been made for a couple of years by that point. When he ran out to start shooting he dropped his pistol. This is the weapon Sciascia used to kill Indelicato. After the murders the surviving Indelicatos ran to the Commission. They were promised safety and given their choice of captain to be under. Before he got wounded that night Santo 'Toni' Giordano was helping to run the Family.
3.) Cesare Bonventre and Baldo Amato were both targeted for shaking down Anthony Aiello (again confirmed as not made) re a heroin deal. Aiello was with Giuseppe Buccellato. Amato's life was spared because he was only following orders.
4.) More on Vito Grimaldi, confirms he was made circa 1991. There must be a story behind the delay. He was involved since at least the 1960s, and his father and probably grandfather were both long time members. Not to mention the son was made just a few years later.
5.) Michael 'Mike the Butcher' Virtuoso had something against him and his induction was opposed at one point. He was brought in through the Cammaranos.
- Colombo related info, brief so putting it here instead of a new topic.
1.) Joseph 'Joe T' Tomasello was made in the same ceremony as Alphonse Persico Jr. circa 1977. Joe Waverly was brought in around the same period (late 70s), in part because he hid out a Colombo leader's relative.
2.) Albert Gallo and his crew were causing trouble with the Colombos and it finally got to the point where he was released to the Genovese Family via Alongi/Gigante. He was made under their sponsorship circa April 1977.
3.) The other Families tried to broker a peace between the Colombo factions through the mid-1990s. At one point Andrew Russo and Vincent Aloi showed up representing each side and it turned into a shouting match that had to be broken up by other Family leaders present. The whole meeting ended prematurely with nothing accomplished. The Colombos were barred from making new members from about 1992 - 2000. Former Orena guys were slowly being brought back into the fold and finally a more stable admin was put in place and they were given permission to resume inductions. For years afterwards certain Orena guys were being plotted against but nothing carried out.
Topic will be updated with more eventually.
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Thanks for this.great post!
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The Ligammari double suicide is strange. It happened less than a couple months after the Sciascia murder and both Ligammaris hanged themselves. What could have possibly led a father and son, both made members, to kill themselves together in this way? You would think at least one of the informants would have some thoughts on this.
Interesting about the old timer at the three captains hit. Giordano's uncle who helped him later that night was also a Bonventre. Have to wonder if there is a connection.
In Simon Crittle's book he says Giordano was a zip captain and that Massino and Giordano orchestrated the three captains hit together. Says Massino met with Giordano to recruit the zips into the conspiracy and that Giordano was to request two Montreal shooters. You mentioned him helping to run the family, but any reason to believe Giordano was ever more than a soldier in title?
Sciascia's murder makes more sense with the Cotroni situation in mind, and that could tell us something about the state of things in Montreal leading up to the war of the 2000s. Still it's weird Massino went to such great lengths to cover up the reason for the murder and the family's involvement if it was justified.
Here is info that interested me from the Sciascia murder trial:
inmate Michael Tessari stated that he
was told by fellow inmate Indelicato that “Vinny” – whom he understood to
be the person known as “Vinny Gorgeous” and “Vinny from the Bronx” [i.e.
Vincent Basciano] – had a certain area “locked up” for narcotics distribution
because “Vinny” and “Vito” got “George” out of the area.
The reference to "Vito" is odd. You have to assume Indelicato meant Vito Rizzuto, but it wouldn't make any sense from what we know. However, Cicale did say that Basciano purchased drugs from Rizzuto after Sciasica's death and maintained a relationship with Montreal so this fits with that.
Interesting about the old timer at the three captains hit. Giordano's uncle who helped him later that night was also a Bonventre. Have to wonder if there is a connection.
In Simon Crittle's book he says Giordano was a zip captain and that Massino and Giordano orchestrated the three captains hit together. Says Massino met with Giordano to recruit the zips into the conspiracy and that Giordano was to request two Montreal shooters. You mentioned him helping to run the family, but any reason to believe Giordano was ever more than a soldier in title?
Sciascia's murder makes more sense with the Cotroni situation in mind, and that could tell us something about the state of things in Montreal leading up to the war of the 2000s. Still it's weird Massino went to such great lengths to cover up the reason for the murder and the family's involvement if it was justified.
Here is info that interested me from the Sciascia murder trial:
inmate Michael Tessari stated that he
was told by fellow inmate Indelicato that “Vinny” – whom he understood to
be the person known as “Vinny Gorgeous” and “Vinny from the Bronx” [i.e.
Vincent Basciano] – had a certain area “locked up” for narcotics distribution
because “Vinny” and “Vito” got “George” out of the area.
The reference to "Vito" is odd. You have to assume Indelicato meant Vito Rizzuto, but it wouldn't make any sense from what we know. However, Cicale did say that Basciano purchased drugs from Rizzuto after Sciasica's death and maintained a relationship with Montreal so this fits with that.
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Thanks for posting this info that I am already familiar with. Personally, the murder of Paolo Cotroni has nothing to do with a so-called brawl that occurred between the son of Sciascia and the young Cotroni.Clark wrote:Great information as usual! Thanks!
The Sciascia murder is interesting. Paolo Cotroni was murder on August 23, 1998 and Sciascia in March 1999. Gerard Gallant, a prolific independent Quebec hitman, later turned informant and admitted murdering Cotroni. Gallant may not have completely been aware of the reason for the Cotroni murder, but he reported that the contract came from the Rock Machine (whom he had done multiple hits for). Police suspect that it came from Rock Machine member Johnny Plesico, who had previously warned Cotroni to stop dealing with the Hells Angels. In response to Cotroni's murder, as well as the ongoing biker war, Plesico was killed only weeks after Cotroni, on September 8, 1998.
It makes you wonder if Massino was using the Cotroni murder as another excuse to murder Sciascia or if Sciascia was double-dealing and actually played a part in influencing Cotroni's murder? The mob in Montreal had stronger connections to the Hells Angels then Rock Machine, but who knows. If what Massino is claiming is true, it is interesting to see that there was still that type of connection between New York and Montreal at that time.
If you want to read more about Gallant there is great French article (which you can google translate) with a bunch of crime scene photos:
http://www1.journaldemontreal.com/2014/ ... jour1.html
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JD, the guy you identify as Jack Mirabile is actually Salvatore Mirabile. Was Salvatore nicknamed Jack?