Who was actually the first to get into the garbage rackets?

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Who was actually the first to get into the garbage rackets?

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Luccheses? Tony Ducks?

Or not exactly?
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Probably the Gambinos (though they were not known by that name at the time) under Jimmy Squillante, IBT leader Bernard Adelstein, etc.
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Right, forgot about "King of the Garbage Rackets".
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One of the earliest Mafia members to be in the garbage waste hauling industry was Genovese member, Yonkers based Nick Rattenni. He started out already in 1949 when the Yonker´s city council was plagued by a fiscal crisis which ended the santitation service for commercial and industrial enterprises. Rattenni started two firms and moved in and made sure he had almost total monopoly in the waste hauling industry in Yonkers. It was said that Rattenni, by time, controlled 90 percent of the private garbage hauling operations up there, not only through his own companies but throgh his secret involvement with the smaller carters too. He must have made a fortune hauling garbage!
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HairyKnuckles wrote:One of the earliest Mafia members to be in the garbage waste hauling industry was Genovese member, Yonkers based Nick Rattenni. He started out already in 1949 when the Yonker´s city council was plagued by a fiscal crisis which ended the santitation service for commercial and industrial enterprises. Rattenni started two firms and moved in and made sure he had almost total monopoly in the waste hauling industry in Yonkers. It was said that Rattenni, by time, controlled 90 percent of the private garbage hauling operations up there, not only through his own companies but throgh his secret involvement with the smaller carters too. He must have made a fortune hauling garbage!
Interesting HK , I would have thought gambino and lucchese would have been the first , surely patsy conte was into that way back also
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The furthest back I can recall as far as control in 5 boros was Squillante, then Jimmy Failla, then Joe Francolino

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Hailbritain wrote:
HairyKnuckles wrote:One of the earliest Mafia members to be in the garbage waste hauling industry was Genovese member, Yonkers based Nick Rattenni. He started out already in 1949 when the Yonker´s city council was plagued by a fiscal crisis which ended the santitation service for commercial and industrial enterprises. Rattenni started two firms and moved in and made sure he had almost total monopoly in the waste hauling industry in Yonkers. It was said that Rattenni, by time, controlled 90 percent of the private garbage hauling operations up there, not only through his own companies but throgh his secret involvement with the smaller carters too. He must have made a fortune hauling garbage!
Interesting HK , I would have thought gambino and lucchese would have been the first , surely patsy conte was into that way back also
Sorry , I meant failla not conte
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It wouldn't necessarily surprise me if the Genovese were the first. They were said to be the family that "more or less invented labor racketeering."
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Wiseguy wrote: They were said to be the family that "more or less invented labor racketeering."
I believe Jewish gangsters were the true pioneers of the labor rackets.
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johnny_scootch wrote:
Wiseguy wrote: They were said to be the family that "more or less invented labor racketeering."
I believe Jewish gangsters were the true pioneers of the labor rackets.
Yes and it was the Genovese family, who had the closest ties to Jewish mobsters, that capitalized and expanded on it. We can see Genovese union in involvement at least as early as 1922 with Lanza and the Seafood Workers Union.
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Hailbritain wrote:The knight of Malta
I know he didn't start it but the ponte fàmily was for real. I grew up with his nephews. I've met the man many times. He's the real deal. Lives in a mansion in Alpine. They can't deal in garbage anymore but they own half of lower Manhattan, have the restaurants, and own all American recycling and recycle paperboard. Serious money in that family.
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The Kolar brothers, some kind of Czechoslovakian immigrants. These Polacks, they'll haul paper, plastic and aluminum for 7, 000 a month less than Dick.
He says if he can tell commie bosses in Czechoslovakia to go fuck themselves, he can fuckin' tell us.


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Fuckin' garbage business. It's all changing.
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