Montreal: Rocco Sollecito has just been shot dead

[Laurentian]

It has been confirmed now, D'Onofrio was victim of mistake.

The intended victim as I always thought at the very first was Carmine Antonio Vanelli.

[B.]

The FBI has been saying that forever. I'm not sure whether they re-evaluated their opinion in the last decade or so. All these killings in recent years indicate that there is very little control and I doubt that most, if any, of these killings have been sanctioned by the Bonannos.

Well they've been saying it forever because it is historically true.

I'm just wondering if they've made any statements in the past few years that say this as well, or if the Vice article is just pulling from older materials.

[OlBlueEyesClub]

Please inform me what I am pulling out my ass? My statement actually said that there were early articles naming him as the sole boss of the Montreal Mafia

Can you show me these articles that described him as such? And don't turn it into being on the ruling panel or being close to Vito Rizzuto or Sollecito, which again is something different. Your statement that he was the "sole boss" of the Montreal Mafia after Vito's passing but before Stefano Sollecito was identified as emerging leader is a serious one that requires evidence.

But I never said that he was the "sole boss" of the Montreal Mafia after Vito passed. Maybe you misread, but not one time did I say that he was factually the sole boss of the Montreal Mafia after Vito's passing, and that he was sole boss before Sollecito. I said I remembered reading older REPORTS by the typical Canadian sources which CLAIMED that he was the "sole boss" of the Montreal Mafia after Vito died. I didn't once say he was factually the sole boss of the Montreal Mafia, nor did I ever imply that I believed he was.

If we were to believe Sal Montagna and if you think that the attempt on Desjardins life was a Rizzuto call, then the women may be playing a role in this as well. As it was Montagna , who supposedly tried to convince Desjardins that it was Libertina Rizzuto whom was behind the attempted hit on Desjardins. I think Montagna was just trying to save his ass though, lol. And idk, the guys who reportedly sat at the "roundtable" with Leonardo & Stefano are still alive and on the street. So the old Sicilian/Rizzuto clan may still have some allies. I know Liborio Cuntrera is basically intermarried into that family. And it remains to be seen if he was really down with aligning himself with Giordano or if it wasn't just a scheme created by the three or four (Rizzuto, Rocco & Stefano, and Pancho) to make Giordano feel safe before they finally had the chance to remove him from the picture completely. Spagnolo is still around, but for some reason, he's a name hardly mentioned in these things. And early reports claimed he took over with the blessing of the Rizzutos and that he was groomed by Vito, but he wasn't mentioned at all in Project MAGOT & Project MASTIF. So it remains to be seen what role, if any, he plays in all of this as well.

THATS what I actually said, from the first moment I ever mentioned Spagnolo's name. I NEVER said that "he was the sole boss of the Montreal Mafia after Vito's passing". I said that's what earlier reports claimed. Therefore the statement of "Nicola Spagnolo was the sole boss of the Montreal Mafia after Vito passed" was never MY statement, it was actually the statement and claim of the earlier reporters who wrote it in their article. You're telling me I'm "pulling things out of my ass" and that I have to bring forth evidence for a statement that I personally never made, nor actually ever believed? No, friend. You simply misunderstood, misinterpreted and misread what I was actually saying. Especially considering the fact that I never bought into nor believed the reports or theories that Spagnolo was the sole boss, and you can actually go check this out on RD, simply by searching "Nicola Spagnolo" and see where his name and this theory was being brought up in threads like "The Montreal Mafia Has A New Boss.." and I was one to never believe it, I was saying if anything I thought Leonardo would've been made boss after Vito, while everyone else was saying he was clean and a simple lawyer. Thank you.

[Lupara]

The FBI has been saying that forever. I'm not sure whether they re-evaluated their opinion in the last decade or so. All these killings in recent years indicate that there is very little control and I doubt that most, if any, of these killings have been sanctioned by the Bonannos.

Well they've been saying it forever because it is historically true.

I'm just wondering if they've made any statements in the past few years that say this as well, or if the Vice article is just pulling from older materials.

I think it's just pulling from older materials. Like I said, I'm not sure whether the FBI re-evaluated their opinion on the matter in recent years.

With all the chaos going on and death after death of members of the old Bonanno crew it seems to be disfunctional at best. The presumed target of the latest hit, Carmine Vanelli, is another one of those who were inducted during the Rizzuto era. Others left are Tony Volpato, Emanuele Ragusa, Tony Mucci, Francesco Arcadi and perhaps one of the Cotronis.

I think at best, the Bonanno family is backing one of the individuals trying to assume control.

[Lupara]

Please inform me what I am pulling out my ass? My statement actually said that there were early articles naming him as the sole boss of the Montreal Mafia

Can you show me these articles that described him as such? And don't turn it into being on the ruling panel or being close to Vito Rizzuto or Sollecito, which again is something different. Your statement that he was the "sole boss" of the Montreal Mafia after Vito's passing but before Stefano Sollecito was identified as emerging leader is a serious one that requires evidence.

But I never said that he was the "sole boss" of the Montreal Mafia after Vito passed. Maybe you misread, but not one time did I say that he was factually the sole boss of the Montreal Mafia after Vito's passing, and that he was sole boss before Sollecito. I said I remembered reading older REPORTS by the typical Canadian sources which CLAIMED that he was the "sole boss" of the Montreal Mafia after Vito died. I didn't once say he was factually the sole boss of the Montreal Mafia, nor did I ever imply that I believed he was.

I asked you whether you could post those earlier reports that made that specific statement....

[OlBlueEyesClub]

And I told you, I admit I can no longer find those exact articles, but I know what I read, and I remember more than one of them making that specific statement...

[OlBlueEyesClub]

Vice isnt a good source, I too think the FBI hasn't re-evaluated, and is basing that Bonanno shit on old reports. We haven't seen anything since like forever that supports the thesis of them still being a crew of the Bonannos.....Remember that theory I had about all of this being efforts by a new alliance to wipe out the "old guard", meaning everyone whom was close to Vito Rizzuto and were considered powers from the moment he and his father took over all the way to when he was imprisoned, and including those whom acted on his behalf while he was away. Here's an new article by Lapresse supporting that theory.

Published June 3, 2016 at 6:11 p.m. | Updated at 6:11 p.m.
Montreal Mafia: the new guard wants to make a clean sweep


The attack occurred yesterday around 16h in the Sinatra bar formerly Hillside on Fleury Street in Ahuntsic, is the latest chapter in a bloody change of guard.






The murder yesterday afternoon in Montreal, which would otherwise constitute a mistaken identity, and the murders of honorable men Rocco Sollecito and Lorenzo Giordano in recent weeks in Laval, could have the same common denominator: a decision power combined with the elimination of the old guard of the Montreal mafia, according to what the sources told La Presse .

The attack occurred yesterday around 16h in the Sinatra bar formerly Hillside on Fleury Street in Ahuntsic, is the last chapter of this change of bloody guard. "It's like trying to make a clean sweep and start again on new bases," says one observer.

Angelo D'Onofrio, 72, a regular at the cafe little or no known to police, is the latest victim of this takeover. A presumably innocent victim because police sources told La Presse that "mistaken identity is one of the most plausible theories."

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In fact, according to our information, Mr. D'Onofrio would have been confused with Carmine Antonio Vanelli, 71, a man of honor and longtime associate mafioso formerly Violi then rallied to Rizzuto when they took power in early 80s Vanelli, like other individuals associated with the Calabrian mafia cell of Montreal, attended the Sinatra coffee. According to our sources, around 16h yesterday, the killer would have made certain findings which would have allowed him to believe he was there. In addition, the victim, Mr. D'Onofrio, sported a very white hair, such as Vanelli, which could have confused the shooter. But the mafioso was not present at Sinatra at that moment. Ironically, it was at Loreto Funeral Complex to offer condolences to the family of Rocco Sollecito murdered there one week.

Although Vanelli belongs to the Calabrian cell, it is considered a faithful of Rizzuto. Investigators also will not exclude the possibility that the attack that targeted may have a connection with the murder of the influential Calabrian Moreno Gallo assassinated in Mexico in 2013 for lack of loyalty.

It will see that they will be the consequences of this blunder. Especially as the Sinatra coffee belongs to a near Vanelli, former member of the Rock Machine and Hells Angels, Salvatore Brunetti. Even if it would put colors on good terms and would now be more linked to the Mafia as bikers according to police, the man still would have very close links with the Hells Angels.

Something in common

Lorenzo Giordano, whom police considered a godfather aspirant but who was killed in Laval on March 1, Rocco Sollecito, who became the highest-ranking Mafia after the natural death of Vito Rizzuto in December 2013 and who was murdered last Friday, and Antonio Vanelli all have one thing in common: they belong to the old guard of the Montreal mafia.



More than 200 people attended the funeral of Rocco Sollecito noon in the Church of Our Lady of Pompei in Montreal. Some people came to pay their last respects, we noticed the presence of members of the Rizzuto clan, whose sister of Vito Rizzuto, Maria Renda, his daughter Libertina and his wife, Giovanna Cammalleri. There were also loyal clan, Vincenzo Spagnolo and his son Nicola, the police believed, until recently at least, as a member of the Montreal Mafia direction table set up after the death of the sponsor.

Police investigators were parked not far from the church to take pictures and refresh their albums intelligence.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justi ... e-rase.php

[JeremyTheJew]

Does anyone rememmber something about the gambinos and ndrangheta being involved w this?

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[OlBlueEyesClub]

Yes, Felice mentioned it, but I believe that was his theory. Then Giacomo Vacari made up a bunch of bullshit about the Ndrangheta and Gambinos, being backed by Frank Cali, was doing all of this so the Ndrangheta could gain control of Montreal and that it turned into a war, with the Bonannos backing Montreal through Salvatore Catalano. No official Canadian news source EVER mentioned that theory or 'Ndrangheta/Gambino involvement since the murders started happening. And I personally believe there is zero to support the thesis of ANY NY families being involved.

[Lupara]

And I told you, I admit I can no longer find those exact articles, but I know what I read, and I remember more than one of them making that specific statement...

I suppose I can live with that.

[OlBlueEyesClub]

It's all good, man.

[SonnyBlackstein]

We may disagree but at least this shits more interesting than Akron Ohio!

[Laurentian]

Here is analysis from Renaud on the impacts that police raids had on the Mafia of Montréal.

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/da8cb8a ... %7C_0.html

[OlBlueEyesClub]

Links broken, man.

[Laurentian]

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/da8cb8a ... %7C_0.html