Teddy Persico due out in 2025

[Nurzhamba]

How can Teddy Persico be described in general?

[moneyman]

Kenji Gallo is a good source of info regarding Teddy Persico. Seems he was party guy/made sure to enjoy himself when not in prison.

I would imagine people in Colombo circles still hold him in high regard even with his history/prev antics etc

[johnny_scootch]

You'd assume if they were desperate for members the ages would get younger and younger.
We regularly get guys getting straightened out 50+, across all 5. Means they've likely been on record for decades.

Makes me wonder how desperate they really are for Furios.

This is 100% correct, all the families are trying to be more careful with who gets straightened out no more 20 year olds and hardly any 30 year olds getting their buttons.

They’re not desperate.

[Pogo The Clown]

I think that has more to do with there just not being many 20-30 something’s associates anymore. Gen Z and the young milllineial’s are by far smallest cohort in the history of LCN and that is not even factoring in quality. So if the families want to make anyone by default it will have to be almost all middle aged and old guys.


Pogo

[Cheech]

The kid Cinque for the Gambinos seems young.

[Uforeality]

Teddy taking the reigns as boss seems like old news. I always thought it was just a matter of him staying out of prison. Hopefully, he'll take a page out of the Genovese playbook and involve himself with legitimate businesses.

[johnny_scootch]

I think that has more to do with there just not being many 20-30 something’s associates anymore.

I don’t think there is a lack of young candidates Sons nephews cousins brothers it’s qualified young guys lacking People grow up in the life, around it from a very young age there are plenty of 20 and 30 year old associates out there that would love to be straightened out.

It’s just not happening for them anymore the really young guys are seen as to much of a risk
They’re to immature. It’s not like the old days when you’d be 24 and have a job house wife and 3 kids it’s a different world

[Pogo The Clown]

I don’t know. Looking at the big Colombo case from 20021 only 2 out of the 14 indicted were under the age of 50 (43 and 39). We see similar trends in the other families. We almost never see guys in their 20s indicted for LCN crimes anymore. Not many in their 30s either.


What we are seeing now are guys that were criminals in the 1980s and 1990s (and before) still engaging in crime but the guys born in the 1980s-early 2000s just aren't there in sufficient numbers to replace them.


Pogo

[Ivan]

I don’t know. Looking at the big Colombo case from 20021 only 2 out of the 14 indicted were under the age of 50 (43 and 39). We see similar trends in the other families. We almost never see guys in their 20s indicted for LCN crimes anymore. Not many in their 30s either.

What we are seeing now are guys that were criminals in the 1980s and 1990s (and before) still engaging in crime but the guys born in the 1980s-early 2000s just aren't there in sufficient numbers to replace them.

I think the New York Families will finally start the process of becoming "nonviable" (in the sense that guys like you and Wiseguy use it) around 2050 for this reason, with not much left by around 2070~2080.

Here's my prediction for 2050 that I wrote a while back:

Italian leadership and capable guys will be few in number and will be old men born between 1960 and 1985. Very few Italians under that age. Actual rackets run by Albanians and whatnot working for old Italians. NY Families half or less the size and influence they are now in terms of manpower/revenue/influence/etc. Ratio of associates to made guys much higher than now. Structure/hierarchy of NY families breaking down and becoming more of a horizontal network than a top-down hierarchy.

[aray22]

You'd assume if they were desperate for members the ages would get younger and younger.
We regularly get guys getting straightened out 50+, across all 5. Means they've likely been on record for decades.

Makes me wonder how desperate they really are for Furios.

This is 100% correct, all the families are trying to be more careful with who gets straightened out no more 20 year olds and hardly any 30 year olds getting their buttons.

They’re not desperate.

The only ones we know of in the last couple years are Anthony Cinque who was in his late 30's, and then the Genovese indictment a couple years ago had Michael Poli as proposed who was in his late 30's. Guessing his arrest prevented him from getting made and he'll be inducted when he comes out. Nadu claims Tommy sneakers' son is made (who is only 28) but we obviously don't know if that's true.

[Dr031718]

Matthew Daddino is inducted into the Genovese recently per GL and is 41 so was inducted at a pretty young age it would appear

[Pmac2]

nothing changes. same as in real life it's all who you know or related to. if a guy wants his nephew or son in there getting in at 25.

[SonnyBlackstein]

If you guys think there are no young wannabes you're kidding yourselves.

The mob is inducting older guys cause there are no younger guys interested?
Seriously.

The mob maintains its allure MORE among the young than the old. Young people don't want to work hard, dont understand consequence and want status.... pretty simple math for yours.

[Pogo The Clown]

If you guys think there are no young wannabes you're kidding yourselves.

The mob is inducting older guys cause there are no younger guys interested?
Seriously.

The mob maintains its allure MORE among the young than the old. Young people don't want to work hard, dont understand consequence and want status.... pretty simple math for yours.

The evidence doesn’t support this. As I said we almost never see anyone under 40 indicted for LCN crimes anymore and virtually none under the age of 30. Never mind teenagers which was the norm for most of LCNs existence in this country.


What we are seeing now is what happened to most of the smaller families that died off decades ago because not enough baby boomers joined up to keep the family going. In this case not enough millennia’s and gen z’s are joining up to keep the remaining families going.


Pogo

[SonnyBlackstein]

Agree to disagree mon fraire.