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Was it ever put to bed one way or another if No-nose DiFronzo was a CI?
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:52 am Was it ever put to bed one way or another if No-nose DiFronzo was a CI?
Suspected by some but not confirmed.
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Antiliar wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:31 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:52 am Was it ever put to bed one way or another if No-nose DiFronzo was a CI?
Suspected by some but not confirmed.
What's your opinion A?
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:35 am
Antiliar wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:31 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:52 am Was it ever put to bed one way or another if No-nose DiFronzo was a CI?
Suspected by some but not confirmed.
What's your opinion A?
It wouldn't surprise me if he was. Red Wemette said that Mitch Mars showed him a document indicating that DiFronzo was a CI, but that would have been not only out of character for Mars, it would have been illegal. On the other hand, Red, on his podcasts, has been honest about what he witnessed and if he doesn't know something he's up front about it. I can't rule out that he made a mistake or misinterpreted something though, so for now I have to take a neutral stance.
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Good answer.

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Is the movie "Bugsy" starring Warren Beatty decent enough in terms of historical accuracy? Considering watching it but don't want to sit through something that's totally made up.
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Ivan wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:23 pm Is the movie "Bugsy" starring Warren Beatty decent enough in terms of historical accuracy? Considering watching it but don't want to sit through something that's totally made up.
No it's s not accurate at all, it's usual the same clichés in it. That said the movie is not bad in term of entertaining
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motorfab wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:42 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:23 pm Is the movie "Bugsy" starring Warren Beatty decent enough in terms of historical accuracy? Considering watching it but don't want to sit through something that's totally made up.
No it's s not accurate at all, it's usual the same clichés in it. That said the movie is not bad in term of entertaining
Thanks. Entertaining or not, I almost got PTSD from "Sugartime" it was so silly so I won't be watching "Bugsy" it sounds like. :lol:
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Ivan wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:16 am
motorfab wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:42 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:23 pm Is the movie "Bugsy" starring Warren Beatty decent enough in terms of historical accuracy? Considering watching it but don't want to sit through something that's totally made up.
No it's s not accurate at all, it's usual the same clichés in it. That said the movie is not bad in term of entertaining
Thanks. Entertaining or not, I almost got PTSD from "Sugartime" it was so silly so I won't be watching "Bugsy" it sounds like. :lol:
It's not as bad as these new TV shows where NOTHING is accurate except the names...

I wanna say warren beatty won a award for the movie - or maybe just nominated

They had jack dragna barking like a dog and crawling on the floor - other then that tho ......it's a good watch. I like to at least watch them all once

If u want "realistic to what happened" in real life try:
- witness to the mob (gravano movie)
- Valachi Papers
- Black Mass
- GOTTI (HBO and Travolta were pretty good)

Realistic but fictionalized but still good:
-One Deadly Road ( movie based on Anthony casso ) hard to find but a MUST SEE
- Vendetta (whitey bulger story but names were changed)


Horrible shows that should be banned:
- business of blood (rizzuto story that's horrible)
- GF of Harlem (bumpy Johnson)
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Is there any truth to the claim I've seen several times online that John Gotti Jr. chased John Alite out of Howard Beach (or some other such territory; it varies at times depending on the storyteller) because he was selling drugs to little kids?

Have seen this online many times, but it seems a little noble/heroic for me to buy 100%.
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Ernesto “Frank Martin” Barese - Soldier in the Gambino Family. He was deported from the US to Italy. He then resurfaced in Vancouver Canada somehow. He was identified by Joe Vallachi as a Gambino soldier.

Does anyone have any biographical information to share about him? I’m particularly interested in his involvement in Vancouver, Canada.
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Is there any evidence for the claim that Barney Bellomo isn't the actual boss of the genovese familiy?
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:43 am
Ivan wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:16 am
motorfab wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:42 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:23 pm Is the movie "Bugsy" starring Warren Beatty decent enough in terms of historical accuracy? Considering watching it but don't want to sit through something that's totally made up.
No it's s not accurate at all, it's usual the same clichés in it. That said the movie is not bad in term of entertaining
Thanks. Entertaining or not, I almost got PTSD from "Sugartime" it was so silly so I won't be watching "Bugsy" it sounds like. :lol:
It's not as bad as these new TV shows where NOTHING is accurate except the names...

I wanna say warren beatty won a award for the movie - or maybe just nominated

They had jack dragna barking like a dog and crawling on the floor - other then that tho ......it's a good watch. I like to at least watch them all once

If u want "realistic to what happened" in real life try:
- witness to the mob (gravano movie)
- Valachi Papers
- Black Mass
- GOTTI (HBO and Travolta were pretty good)

Realistic but fictionalized but still good:
-One Deadly Road ( movie based on Anthony casso ) hard to find but a MUST SEE
- Vendetta (whitey bulger story but names were changed)


Horrible shows that should be banned:
- business of blood (rizzuto story that's horrible)
- GF of Harlem (bumpy Johnson)
Add Gravesend to Horrible Shows That Should Be Banned
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Harrism wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:41 am Is there any evidence for the claim that Barney Bellomo isn't the actual boss of the genovese familiy?
Is this the cicale claim ur referring to?
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Can someone point me toward (or just tell me now, lol) an accurate breakdown of the Genovese boss, underboss, consigliere, ruling panel, etc. succession during the confusing Tier/Lombardo/Salerno/Gigante era of say 1970 to 1990?
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