General Mob Questions

[pat_marcy]

Got confused with the pages so my question is well out of sync and I can’t delete it. Ignore me

[trafficante]

What kind of name is "Aladena." I've literally never seen this name anywhere other than Jimmy Fratianno's birth name. Does anyone know where this name even originates? I've always wondered this.

[JeremyTheJew]

Anyone watch GODFATHER OF HARLEM ?

The bumpy Johnson show?? It's pretty much like the Rizzuto show they did where they just completely make events up to the point where it's so fake that it's not fun.

I don't understand why they even would ruin GOOD stories ...

They got chin and bumpy Johnson shooting JOE MAGLIOCCO and putting a knife to JOE BONANNOs throat saying HARLEM is theres now .…

[Wiseguy]

Anyone watch GODFATHER OF HARLEM ?

The bumpy Johnson show?? It's pretty much like the Rizzuto show they did where they just completely make events up to the point where it's so fake that it's not fun.

I don't understand why they even would ruin GOOD stories ...

They got chin and bumpy Johnson shooting JOE MAGLIOCCO and putting a knife to JOE BONANNOs throat saying HARLEM is theres now .…

A similar creative/historical atrocity was made with the Bumpy Johnson story back in the 1997 film Hoodlum. Writer Chris Brancato is the common denominator in both.

[JeremyTheJew]

Anyone watch GODFATHER OF HARLEM ?

The bumpy Johnson show?? It's pretty much like the Rizzuto show they did where they just completely make events up to the point where it's so fake that it's not fun.

I don't understand why they even would ruin GOOD stories ...

They got chin and bumpy Johnson shooting JOE MAGLIOCCO and putting a knife to JOE BONANNOs throat saying HARLEM is theres now .…

A similar creative/historical atrocity was made with the Bumpy Johnson story back in the 1997 film Hoodlum. Writer Chris Brancato is the common denominator in both.

Ya at least its not like this tho - like hoodlum can be said LOSELY based on true events

This can't even be said for this
Like how roemer has dutch Schultz in shoot outs in LV - same type of shit. and the real stories are better

[PolackTony]

What kind of name is "Aladena." I've literally never seen this name anywhere other than Jimmy Fratianno's birth name. Does anyone know where this name even originates? I've always wondered this.

“Aladena” is not an Italian given name, it was a distortion as often happened with Italian given and surnames in the US in the late 19th/early 20th century.

Jimmy Fratianno was born Adelino Fratianni in 1913 in the comune of Ripalimolisani, in the province of Campobasso, Molise (the region of Molise didn’t yet exist as a political entity; at the time Molise was still part of the old Abruzzi region). He arrived in the US in 1914 as an infant with his mother, Maria Concetta Trivisonno, bound for Cleveland’s Eastside Little Italy, where father Antonio Carmine Fratianni had arrived the prior year (almost all of the immigrants from Ripalimolisani in the US settled in Cleveland).

[Dwalin2014]

Anybody knows what's Sonny Franzese's real first name? He is listed as John, but If he was born in Italy, it's unlikely he would have been given an English name. Could it be Giovanni maybe (just a guess)?

[PolackTony]

Anybody knows what's Sonny Franzese's real first name? He is listed as John, but If he was born in Italy, it's unlikely he would have been given an English name. Could it be Giovanni maybe (just a guess)?

Giovanni and John are just versions of the same name.

Sonny Franzese was born Giovanni Francese, in his mother, Maria Romano’s hometown of Saviano (just north of Naples in the Nola district of the old Terra di Lavoro province of Campania; Saviano is next to Scisciano, where the Ebolis were from, and Marigliano, Ritchie Boiardo’s hometown). His father was, of course, Carmine Salvatore “The Lion” Francese, a presumed Camorrista from the neighboring commune of Palma Campania