One case (hit) wonders

[JeremyTheJew]

Run off from the other thread;

What are some cases that DEVISTATED or really damaged the family??

I would say Family Secrets for Chicago

Strawman Case did a number out KC

Biggest damage ever I think would be MASSINO FLIPPING just bc he’s the first boss to flip frfr

Commission case in a way was the beginning of the end also

[Pmac2]

I would say the parking lot extortion case that got frank coppa to flip might be the tip of the top. guys looking at a few years more he had money for lawyers fips and causes the bonanno family to collapse. they knew the parking lot guy would flip to and still beat him up

[jmack]

Philly is easy with late 80’s Scarfo. That took out half of the made guys.

[Hired_Goonz]

That indictment that hit the DeCavalcantes in 1999 started a chain reaction that really devastated the family, lust look at how many guys flipped.

[Ivan]

There wasn't much left of Cleveland after the big RICO case in the early 80s.

The case against Local 210 where the government took it over turned the Buffalo family into a minor-league operation.

The entire Stanfa faction was taken off the street by a sweeping RICO case, allowing the Merlino gang to take over.

Lenny Strollo flipping completely removed in one case organized crime from Youngstown and the Mahoning Valley's local governments, which had been completely dominated by it for decades.

[Pogo The Clown]

The big 1996 Rico case was essentially the end of the Detroit family.


The 1984 Rico case wiped out the Rochester family.


Pogo

[furiofromnaples]

Charles Porterò flipping devasted the Pittsburgh family.

[Adam]

Philly is easy with late 80’s Scarfo. That took out half of the made guys.

Along those lines, I think of the 1994 case against the Stanfa organization. That essentially just wiped out everything that got set up between 1990 and 1994 and the Merlino faction just starts from scratch after that. The fact that Philly was able to do that is impressive, but the Stanfa organization got completely wiped out and the Feds had to start from scratch on a whole new organization.

[Adam]

The big 1996 Rico case was essentially the end of the Detroit family.


The 1984 Rico case wiped out the Rochester family.


Pogo

Yeah the 1996 Detroit case is interesting. If you want to go into if that's the end of the Detroit mob, I can see that argument, but the actual results are pretty mixed. Jack Tocco does a small amount of time and gets out. Zerilli does some time and gets out. Corrado goes to prison and does die there. V. Giacalone does some time and gets out. A. Giacalone never even goes to jail. Dies five years later still not going to trial. A. Tocco gets aquitted. Nove flips and disappears but does no real damage to the organization. Paul Corrado is really the one to get screwed over(13 years), but most everyone else pleads out for not too much time. Charges against Nove's dad get dropped. So it's really Paul Corrado and Anthony Corrado who bear the brunt of it. Charges are dropped against two of the original associates. Now, I'm willing to go along with the argument that after 1996 the Detroit mob just says "It's not worth it to keep this thing going." Don't necessarily believe that but it's definitely a legitimate argument. But ten years later there's the 2006 RICO case which has even more mixed results.

[jmack]

Philly is easy with late 80’s Scarfo. That took out half of the made guys.

Along those lines, I think of the 1994 case against the Stanfa organization. That essentially just wiped out everything that got set up between 1990 and 1994 and the Merlino faction just starts from scratch after that. The fact that Philly was able to do that is impressive, but the Stanfa organization got completely wiped out and the Feds had to start from scratch on a whole new organization.

Uncle Joe deserves a lot of credit for what he did. I think he’s underrated in his accomplishments. For me the 80’s case was the big one. You had many (young) capable guys taken off the street. They went from enforcing a serious street tax to Natale needing to setup a meth business just to generate revenue. The 80’s through today in Philly has always been my largest area of interest. I’m friends with a lot of the younger family members of guys who are involved and have met quite a few of these guys a time or two. Maybe Philly is different but I don’t get a lot of “fresh street talk” like other people allude to. If I wanted to make a bet without using a licensed Sportsbook, I definitely could. The same if I wanted to borrow money. I would know who to go to. Other than that I have no idea what these guys are doing

[furiofromnaples]

Charles Porterò flipping devasted the Pittsburgh family.

Sorry I would say Charles Porter.

[JeremyTheJew]

That indictment that hit the DeCavalcantes in 1999 started a chain reaction that really devastated the family, lust look at how many guys flipped.

The Vinny Ocean case ? Or pre Vinny ocean? I read MADE MEN but that’s all I know for decavs

[JeremyTheJew]

There wasn't much left of Cleveland after the big RICO case in the early 80s.

The case against Local 210 where the government took it over turned the Buffalo family into a minor-league operation.

The entire Stanfa faction was taken off the street by a sweeping RICO case, allowing the Merlino gang to take over.

Lenny Strollo flipping completely removed in one case organized crime from Youngstown and the Mahoning Valley's local governments, which had been completely dominated by it for decades.

All excellent examples

Was Lonoardo the first ranking UB to flip? Or would that be jimmy the weasel? Lonardo I think decimated the whole family

[SonnyBlackstein]

Gravano.

Set the precedent. Publicity. Drew heat on every family. Bought LCN into the national spotlight.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Commission case in a way was the beginning of the end also

Yup.
Could be argued sent the Lucchese family into a permanent downwood spiral.