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Is Nicola Gentile's claim about Al Capone being made corroborated by anyone else? I can't remember. The Bonannos maybe?
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Ivan wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:37 pm Is Nicola Gentile's claim about Al Capone being made corroborated by anyone else? I can't remember. The Bonannos maybe?
Not exactly like Gentile, but Bonanno says Capone is an ally of Masseria. Anyway for Capone to be recognized as boss by Maranzano, he had to be made, so that corroborates Gentile's statement. And I highly doubt he was made into the Chicago borgata

I think I saw on MarFerrell another informant confirm that Capone was made by Masseria. He was a CI from Wisconsin if I remember correctly, I'll try to find the link
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motorfab wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:52 pm
Ivan wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:37 pm Is Nicola Gentile's claim about Al Capone being made corroborated by anyone else? I can't remember. The Bonannos maybe?
Not exactly like Gentile, but Bonanno says Capone is an ally of Masseria. Anyway for Capone to be recognized as boss by Maranzano, he had to be made, so that corroborates Gentile's statement. And I highly doubt he was made into the Chicago borgata

I think I saw on MarFerrell another informant confirm that Capone was made by Masseria. He was a CI from Wisconsin if I remember correctly, I'll try to find the link
Thanks man, yeah if you can find that it would be great. I worded the question very poorly, what I meant specifically was if anyone besides Gentile had made the claim that Masseria had made Capone. (As for Capone being made in general, I think that goes without saying almost, for the reason you give.)
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Augie Maniaci is the CI who said Capone was made but he was from Milwaukee, not Wisconsin.
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OcSleeper wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:59 pm Augie Maniaci is the CI who said Capone was made but he was from Milwaukee, not Wisconsin.
Thanks a lot! Also Milwaukee is in Wisconsin.
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Lol shit you right my bad I was thinking it was a city😂
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OcSleeper, haha ​​we are foreigners we have the right to be wrong ;)

Yes I think it was indeed Maniaci, for the moment I can't find the doc, but I'll let you know as soon as I get my hands on it
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motorfab wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:37 am OcSleeper, haha ​​we are foreigners we have the right to be wrong ;)
Haha Milwaukee's a minor provincial metropolis, I wouldn't expect non-Americans to be super well versed in its particulars.
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motorfab wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:37 am OcSleeper, haha ​​we are foreigners we have the right to be wrong ;)

Yes I think it was indeed Maniaci, for the moment I can't find the doc, but I'll let you know as soon as I get my hands on it
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JoePuzzles234 wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:26 am
motorfab wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:37 am OcSleeper, haha ​​we are foreigners we have the right to be wrong ;)

Yes I think it was indeed Maniaci, for the moment I can't find the doc, but I'll let you know as soon as I get my hands on it
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Yes. Maniaci says Capone was made and promoted to capodecina, just as Gentile did. While Gentile knew Capone personally along with many other 1920s Chicago members, Maniaci knew ex-Chicago members in Milwaukee who were part of these events.

Also Bonanno implies Capone was made after Giuseppe Morello's death, at which point Capone sent gunmen to help Masseria in NYC. Bonanno doesn't say "made", but something like Capone became part of "our world" (the Sicilians) or something to that effect. Capone was likely made a couple of years earlier though, Gentile placing it around 1928.
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So what about the Capone plus 9 that were allowed to become officially made ???

We have had lots of threads discussing this ..... So technically it was not confirmed ??

I assumed it came from rohemer talks or something like that
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:55 am So what about the Capone plus 9 that were allowed to become officially made ???

We have had lots of threads discussing this ..... So technically it was not confirmed ??

I assumed it came from rohemer talks or something like that
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Technically it was 100% confirmed.
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Was actually wondering about the moustache thing the other day when I seen a pic of angelo Bruno and Sam the plumber (not together) with moustaches. What about the combed back hair? Is that a rule or a myth
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