OC Shortz and DiLeonardo

[Docloads]

OC posted a response today. No idea what exactly the guy did wrong. Seems like he posts direct information every video based on files, etc. Certain people in that scene seem more focused on creating drama amongst each other, rather than staying on topic.

[TommyGambino]

RJ showing his true colours, spent years around DiLeonardo and still knows absolutely fuck all

[InCamelot]

If that comment really was left by RJ than he's a complete clown. Which one of his 36 rules of the bosses is he applying now?

[B.]

James has always been a gentleman in my experience, much as Michael DiLeonardo has. If there was some type of misunderstanding, both are the type to handle it maturely and not draw it out.

[funkster]

Think that OC video was pretty fair and straight forward.

[JimmyG_415]

For anyone to pass judgement on a JOURNALIST for working with “rats” is just retarded

Exactly,
Joey Merlino opened up my eyes about them, that they aren't good guys. But, to think that anyone who
interviews them is a scumbag is just moronic. If that is really how you think,
then Scorsese, Pileggi, De Niro are all scumbags. Pesci, George Anastasia.
.
Its the moboligists that think they are tough guys now that crack me up. That isn't Gladdy.

[John W]

Think that OC video was pretty fair and straight forward.

I thought it was fair and to the point and hopefully it’s put everything to bed regarding the whole matter.

[outfit guy]

The only critique of the arrangement OC has is he does little challenging of SG, but that's ok, as he stated, he's trying to get more information for future videos. Getting opinions of the 20 capos is great; no one else asked. What I noted is SG has NO - ZERO - insights into Manhattan. During SG's time, Manhattan still had wiseguys uptown, downtown, eastside, westside. When shown hierarchies of East Harlem crews, he was clueless.

[johnny_scootch]

OC Shortz is a class act.

[funkster]

I dont hate Nadu but i also have never watched one of his videos, i watched his response to this whole drama and it was an hour of him reading and responding to the live chat comments. Is that how all his videos are?

[aray22]

I dont hate Nadu but i also have never watched one of his videos, i watched his response to this whole drama and it was an hour of him reading and responding to the live chat comments. Is that how all his videos are?

That's how all of his lives are.

[outfit guy]

I dont hate Nadu but i also have never watched one of his videos, i watched his response to this whole drama and it was an hour of him reading and responding to the live chat comments. Is that how all his videos are?

His shows can be over-extended responding to chats. But Nadu has more "broken" more stories and had more first-time guests than any other host. His due diligence is nowhere near OC's who makes the effort to read hundreds of pages of FBI transcripts. The only better research - in video form - is here

https://www.youtube.com/@TheLastSupper_yt
https://www.youtube.com/@TheLastSupper_yt

[PolackTony]

I dont hate Nadu but i also have never watched one of his videos, i watched his response to this whole drama and it was an hour of him reading and responding to the live chat comments. Is that how all his videos are?

His shows can be over-extended responding to chats. But Nadu has more "broken" more stories and had more first-time guests than any other host. His due diligence is nowhere near OC's who makes the effort to read hundreds of pages of FBI transcripts. The only better research - in video form - is here

https://www.youtube.com/@TheLastSupper_yt
https://www.youtube.com/@TheLastSupper_yt

I’m sorry, but I watched 5 minutes of this guy’s video on Bugs Moran and it was riddled with sloppy errors.

For example, this guy said that both Capone and Frankie Yale “grew up” in the “5 Points District of New York” (both men were from Brooklyn, not Manhattan). He referred to Yale as the “Capo of the Brooklyn chapter of the Unione Siciliana”, which is one of many falsehoods surrounding this era that refuses to die as people just keep repeating it in error. Yale was, in fact, a capodecina in the Masseria Family. There was no such entity as the “Unione Siciliana” in Brooklyn; this was, in fact, a mutual aid society founded in Chicago in the 1890s by men from Palermo and had chapters/lodges in IL and a few nearby states like IN. The Unione Siciliana was infiltrated by mafiosi but was not the same thing as the mafia, it was basically like the Sons of Italy today. He describes Chicago boss Tony Lombardo as Chicago’s “leading Union representative”. Lombardo was not a formal official of the Unione Siciliana, which was called the Italo-American National Union by this time anyway; Lombardo was boss of the Chicago mafia and, like many Sicilians in Chicago, mafiosi and not, a member of the IANU; the actual IANU President at this time was a guy named Bernard Barassa. The guy goes on to say that Yale “replaced Lombardo” with Joe Aiello, who he describes as a “compliant figure from Milwaukee”. Aiello was *not* “from Milwaukee”. He was from Bagheria and had arrived in Chicago, where he already had decades-long familial ties, via upstate NY. He was not brought to Chicago by Yale and was not installed by Yale as a replacement for Lombardo in the “Unione Siciliana”. We know from the account of Nicola Gentile that Aiello was appointed underboss of the Chicago Family under Lombardo folllowing the death of former boss Michele Merlo in 1924.

Again, just the immediate errors that I noticed in listening to a few minutes of one episode. It’s clear that the guy is just uncritically repeating whatever he read in some other account of this era, and lots of what was written about this era of mafia history is little better than myth.

[Ivan]

I’m sorry, but I watched 5 minutes of this guy’s video on Bugs Moran and it was riddled with sloppy errors.

Since you brought up ol' Adelard I gotta ask, you ever read Rose Keefe's books?

They're worth reading just for the part where Drucci dresses up as a priest for a prank.

[outfit guy]

I dont hate Nadu but i also have never watched one of his videos, i watched his response to this whole drama and it was an hour of him reading and responding to the live chat comments. Is that how all his videos are?

His shows can be over-extended responding to chats. But Nadu has more "broken" more stories and had more first-time guests than any other host. His due diligence is nowhere near OC's who makes the effort to read hundreds of pages of FBI transcripts. The only better research - in video form - is here

https://www.youtube.com/@TheLastSupper_yt
https://www.youtube.com/@TheLastSupper_yt

I’m sorry, but I watched 5 minutes of this guy’s video on Bugs Moran and it was riddled with sloppy errors.

For example, this guy said that both Capone and Frankie Yale “grew up” in the “5 Points District of New York” (both men were from Brooklyn, not Manhattan). He referred to Yale as the “Capo of the Brooklyn chapter of the Unione Siciliana”, which is one of many falsehoods surrounding this era that refuses to die as people just keep repeating it in error. Yale was, in fact, a capodecina in the Masseria Family. There was no such entity as the “Unione Siciliana” in Brooklyn; this was, in fact, a mutual aid society founded in Chicago in the 1890s by men from Palermo and had chapters/lodges in IL and a few nearby states like IN. The Unione Siciliana was infiltrated by mafiosi but was not the same thing as the mafia, it was basically like the Sons of Italy today. He describes Chicago boss Tony Lombardo as Chicago’s “leading Union representative”. Lombardo was not a formal official of the Unione Siciliana, which was called the Italo-American National Union by this time anyway; Lombardo was boss of the Chicago mafia and, like many Sicilians in Chicago, mafiosi and not, a member of the IANU; the actual IANU President at this time was a guy named Bernard Barassa. The guy goes on to say that Yale “replaced Lombardo” with Joe Aiello, who he describes as a “compliant figure from Milwaukee”. Aiello was *not* “from Milwaukee”. He was from Bagheria and had arrived in Chicago, where he already had decades-long familial ties, via upstate NY. He was not brought to Chicago by Yale and was not installed by Yale as a replacement for Lombardo in the “Unione Siciliana”. We know from the account of Nicola Gentile that Aiello was appointed underboss of the Chicago Family under Lombardo folllowing the death of former boss Michele Merlo in 1924.

Again, just the immediate errors that I noticed in listening to a few minutes of one episode. It’s clear that the guy is just uncritically repeating whatever he read in some other account of this era, and lots of what was written about this era of mafia history is little better than myth.

I viewed Dutch Schultz and enjoyed. Never heard of Vannie HIggins and viewing.