How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Discuss all mafia families in the U.S., Canada, Italy, and everywhere else in the world.

Moderator: Capos

Post Reply
B.
Men Of Mayhem
Posts: 10692
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:18 pm
Contact:

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by B. »

Sclafani was also the one who Luigi Oliveri disrespected at the Ribera Club which is one of the reasons Stango was plotting to kill him.
User avatar
Pogo The Clown
Men Of Mayhem
Posts: 14139
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:02 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by Pogo The Clown »

B. wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:36 pm Sclafani was also the one who Luigi Oliveri disrespected at the Ribera Club which is one of the reasons Stango was plotting to kill him.

For those interested here the incident in question (from Gatto’s book).

The DeCavs had recently put on a social event in a catering hall, not only for crime family members but also for outside relatives, including dozens of children. Luigi had walked in, full of self-importance, now thinking of himself as a made guy. An old-school gangster named “Tin Ear” Sclafani, a former enforcer for the family who was now past his day, had been sitting with his walking cane when ...


The old man lifted the cane and poked Oliveri in the belly. “Hey Luigi, look at you! You're getting fat like your brother!” (Luigi's brother was an extremely heavy individual, three to four hundred pounds.) Luigi exploded, yelling and cursing, showing no respect for the old mobster in front of his wife and grandchildren and the other old timers sitting nearby. “You fucking old men! You don't know what's going on. Things are changing around here, and you better start fucking respecting me!”

Not surprisingly, members of the incoming Administration were extremely angry about Luigi's behavior. Charlie told me that Big Ears and Milk had visited him at his hotel room and told him about the incident. His reaction had been “The kid's out of control. We've gotta do something about him.” Their response was “Yeah, but there's gotta be a
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
Massive-Sail
Straightened out
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:38 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by Massive-Sail »

Sclafani’s associate Robert Volpe was also associating with Louis Civello
User avatar
The Greek
Straightened out
Posts: 426
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:47 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by The Greek »

Massive-Sail wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:22 am https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/na ... d=55753091
DeCavalcante soldier James “jimmy dirt” Castaldo died
Says he lost a son and his sister is married to a Michael DeSantis.. Lucchese Mike DeSantis?
bluehouse
Sergeant Of Arms
Posts: 550
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:49 pm

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by bluehouse »

Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be
furiofromnaples
Full Patched
Posts: 1783
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:41 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by furiofromnaples »

bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:14 am Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be
The most powerful family out NY is Philadelphia. Even in the old days the Lucchese and Genovese NJ factions was more powerful then the DeCavalcantes.
bluehouse
Sergeant Of Arms
Posts: 550
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:49 pm

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by bluehouse »

furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:11 am
bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:14 am Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be
The most powerful family out NY is Philadelphia. Even in the old days the Lucchese and Genovese NJ factions was more powerful then the DeCavalcantes.
Dont the decavs have 4 crews while the NJ luchese and genevese are only 1 crew each
User avatar
Pogo The Clown
Men Of Mayhem
Posts: 14139
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:02 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by Pogo The Clown »

Not all crews are created equal. The DeCavalcante Crews have always been paper thin. This has been especially true since the big 1999 and 2000 indictments.


Pogo
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
furiofromnaples
Full Patched
Posts: 1783
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:41 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by furiofromnaples »

bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:18 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:11 am
bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:14 am Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be
The most powerful family out NY is Philadelphia. Even in the old days the Lucchese and Genovese NJ factions was more powerful then the DeCavalcantes.
Dont the decavs have 4 crews while the NJ luchese and genevese are only 1 crew each
decav65.png
In a 2004 report are reported 40 members in Lucchese crew and 50 in Genovese crew.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
scagghiuni
Full Patched
Posts: 1135
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:04 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by scagghiuni »

furiofromnaples wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:06 am
bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:18 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:11 am
bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:14 am Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be
The most powerful family out NY is Philadelphia. Even in the old days the Lucchese and Genovese NJ factions was more powerful then the DeCavalcantes.
Dont the decavs have 4 crews while the NJ luchese and genevese are only 1 crew each
decav65.png

In a 2004 report are reported 40 members in Lucchese crew and 50 in Genovese crew.
i thought Lucchese crew had 20 members at its peak
User avatar
Wiseguy
Filthy Few
Posts: 9569
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:12 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by Wiseguy »

Not sure why we are posting a chart from 60 years ago or citing a report from 20 years ago. Which, by the way, dealt with all members living in the state including members from New York crews. Not just those from New Jersey crews. And things appear to have changed significantly.
All roads lead to New York.
furiofromnaples
Full Patched
Posts: 1783
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:41 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by furiofromnaples »

Wiseguy wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:06 pm Not sure why we are posting a chart from 60 years ago or citing a report from 20 years ago. Which, by the way, dealt with all members living in the state including members from New York crews. Not just those from New Jersey crews. And things appear to have changed significantly.
What I would say is if in the 2004 there are so numerous in the 1964 would be more powerful. Plus the Luccheses and Genoveses crew had more power in the unions respect the DeCavalcantes.
User avatar
OcSleeper
Full Patched
Posts: 1551
Joined: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:54 pm

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by OcSleeper »

Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:53 pm Some great stuff in this interview. Some new tidbits like Joe Merlo being the UnderBoss and Carl Corsentino and Joe Sclafani being Captains during that period.


Pogo
Do you remember where he mentioned Merlo and Corsentino? Watched it last night and I never heard either of their names or nicknames used.
Massive-Sail
Straightened out
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:38 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by Massive-Sail »

he mentioned that when he was at Sacco’s, he was
introduced to a captain that was at a Funeral Home a few blocks away.
To me it’s unclear who was going to be the underboss in 2015 because Stango told him first that Merlo was staying as underboss and later he told him that he was going to be promoted as Underboss or Consigliere.
User avatar
Pogo The Clown
Men Of Mayhem
Posts: 14139
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:02 am

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

Post by Pogo The Clown »

OcSleeper wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:55 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:53 pm Some great stuff in this interview. Some new tidbits like Joe Merlo being the UnderBoss and Carl Corsentino and Joe Sclafani being Captains during that period.


Pogo
Do you remember where he mentioned Merlo and Corsentino? Watched it last night and I never heard either of their names or nicknames used.

He didn’t mentioned them by name in the interview but he uses their names in his book when talking about the same stories. He just didn’t use their titles in the book like he did in the interview.


Pogo
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
Post Reply