Franzese story on Joe Colombo notifying Carlo Gambino about a hit

[Tonyd621]

I was watching this new mafia documentary narrated by Michael Imperoli and in the beginning of the second episode, Michael franzese stated how "Colombo" the first italian- American mob boss was on a hit squad to kill Carlo Gambino. However, instead of killing him, Colombo told Gambino and Gambino made him boss of the "Colombo crime family." If this is true, I am interested in knowing more about this. Anybody can provide any links or previous deep dives into this, please post in thread. Thank

[AntComello]

I was watching this new mafia documentary narrated by Michael Imperoli and in the beginning of the second episode, Michael franzese stated how "Colombo" the first italian- American mob boss was on a hit squad to kill Carlo Gambino. However, instead of killing him, Colombo told Gambino and Gambino made him boss of the "Colombo crime family." If this is true, I am interested in knowing more about this. Anybody can provide any links or previous deep dives into this, please post in thread. Thank

Where can I find this documentary? Could use a good watch

[Tonyd621]

I was watching this new mafia documentary narrated by Michael Imperoli and in the beginning of the second episode, Michael franzese stated how "Colombo" the first italian- American mob boss was on a hit squad to kill Carlo Gambino. However, instead of killing him, Colombo told Gambino and Gambino made him boss of the "Colombo crime family." If this is true, I am interested in knowing more about this. Anybody can provide any links or previous deep dives into this, please post in thread. Thank

Where can I find this documentary? Could use a good watch

https://flixtor.to/watch/tv/14609754/am ... e-families

[Tonyd621]

American Godfathers: the five families

[Tonyd621]

For me, some of it is new, some old. Most interesting thing to me so far, is apparently an fbi agent named Jim Nelson, retired colombo squad agent, stated how he gave blood to Colombo right after he was shot. Colombo had a blood type of B-negative which is a very small population of people who have that... This is the actual fbi agent stating this.

[johnny_scootch]

I was watching this new mafia documentary narrated by Michael Imperoli and in the beginning of the second episode, Michael franzese stated how "Colombo" the first italian- American mob boss was on a hit squad to kill Carlo Gambino. However, instead of killing him, Colombo told Gambino and Gambino made him boss of the "Colombo crime family." If this is true, I am interested in knowing more about this. Anybody can provide any links or previous deep dives into this, please post in thread. Thank

This is just another version of the story where Bonanno and Magliocco were conspiring to kill Gambino and Lucchese. Supposedly gave the hit to Colombo and he ratted them out to Gambino and because of that Gambino supported Colombo as boss when they deposed Magliocco. It’s told in many books with different versions, it’s nothing new.

[johnny_scootch]

I was watching this new mafia documentary narrated by Michael Imperoli and in the beginning of the second episode, Michael franzese stated how "Colombo" the first italian- American mob boss was on a hit squad to kill Carlo Gambino. However, instead of killing him, Colombo told Gambino and Gambino made him boss of the "Colombo crime family." If this is true, I am interested in knowing more about this. Anybody can provide any links or previous deep dives into this, please post in thread. Thank

This is just another version of the story where Bonanno and Magliocco were conspiring to kill Gambino and Lucchese. Supposedly they gave the hit to Colombo and he ratted them out to Gambino and because of that Gambino supported Colombo as boss when they deposed Magliocco. It’s told in many books with different versions, it’s nothing new and imo probably not true.

[Antiliar]

I was watching this new mafia documentary narrated by Michael Imperoli and in the beginning of the second episode, Michael franzese stated how "Colombo" the first italian- American mob boss was on a hit squad to kill Carlo Gambino. However, instead of killing him, Colombo told Gambino and Gambino made him boss of the "Colombo crime family." If this is true, I am interested in knowing more about this. Anybody can provide any links or previous deep dives into this, please post in thread. Thank

This story is old. It's not new information from Franzese.

[Juice Terry]

What was the reason for wanting Gambino dead?

[johnny_scootch]

What was the reason for wanting Gambino dead?

Lucchese, Gambino, Magaddino were manipulating members of the Profaci and Bonanno families to cause dissent. Those bosses played a role in both the Bonanno family war and the Profaci/Gallo war in the 60's.

[B.]

Gambino specifically gave an audience to the Gallos and put members of their faction under his protection which incensed Bonanno and Profaci/Magliocco.

[Eline2015]

I think that Sally musacchio was that guy, not Colombo

[Antiliar]

What was the reason for wanting Gambino dead?

Lucchese, Gambino, Magaddino were manipulating members of the Profaci and Bonanno families to cause dissent. Those bosses played a role in both the Bonanno family war and the Profaci/Gallo war in the 60's.

I'm not positive on the timing, but IIRC it came after they refused to approve Magliocco as the new boss.

[B.]

An angle that doesn't get mentioned much is that the Gallos were forming a close relationship to Tony Strollo and the Village crew and allegedly cultivating support from them before Strollo's death. Makes sense given Bonanno believed Vito Genovese had been aligned with Lucchese and Gambino in the liberal takeover of the Commission and that was his faction.

The relationship continued through Gigante as he basically hid out on President Street later on when he was on the outs with the Genovese leadership, then you have Joey Gallo spending his time in the Village, Gigante bringing Albert Gallo and Illiano into the Genovese Family, etc.

[B.]

The war started earlier while Profaci was still alive and their faction felt Gambino/Lucchese were behind it. Then when Profaci died, Magliocco rushed an election where captains met with their decine and voted on a new boss and consigliere. In Scarpa's account, his captain Ambrose Magliocco convinced their crew to vote his brother in as boss and the consigliere position was between John Oddo and Salvatore Badalamenti. Magliocco was thus "elected" (consigliere was still open) but as Angelo Bruno later explained to Magliocco, you can't elect an official boss during conflict as the entire Family must agree to support the elected candidate and the Commission refused to recognize Magliocco as official. Bruno also pointed out that Magliocco had refused to meet with the Commission to rectify the issue.

When Joe Colombo was elected boss, he not only had the support of Gambino/Lucchese but according to Patriarca also the support of the Commission as a whole. With the election of Colombo in 1964 and a short time later consigliere Benedetto D'Alessandro, the Colombos had a full official admin for the first time since 1959 and the first officially recognized boss since Profaci in 1962. The Gallo faction also "came in" by the time Colombo became boss, with Larry Gallo included in Family meetings and events, showing the Family was unified behind Colombo's election at least temporarily.