Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

[PolackTony]

I don’t recall Lonardo ever testifying that Ronnie Carabbia was made. Lonardo claimed, of course, that Cleveland didn’t want to approve the hit on Charlie Crab out of “respect” for Ronnie and his family, but he didn’t say that Ronnie was made (if I’m wrong, and Lonardo did in fact make this claim somewhere else and I missed it, someone please correct me).

In “25 Years After Valachi”, the Feds designated Ronnie as an associate as of his 1982 RICO conviction:

[Pogo The Clown]

If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.


Pogo

[Snakes]

Was Carrabia on the 1993 list?

[Pogo The Clown]

Was Carrabia on the 1993 list?

He was not.


Pogo

[FriendofHenry]

If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.

That is also my understanding. He was made to insure his silence. He was also reassured that his family would be taken care of.

Pogo

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[Stroccos]

If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.


Pogo

They weren’t in prison together after there conviction , they may have been in county jail for a brief spell .

[FriendofHenry]

If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.


Pogo

They weren’t in prison together after there conviction , they may have been in county jail for a brief spell .

Fair enough - I consider you the most knowledgeable of the old Cleveland LCN

[Adam]

This will probably involve some debate. And I know Scott disagrees. Sorry Scott, you're awesome! But for Detroit, I still haven't seen actual evidence Nove Tocco was made. He never gave an induction ceremony description ever. And the Detroit FBI would have broadcast that. So that one I think is questionable.

[Extortion]

“Seemed to he made” ….Well did you meet any of them or see them anywhere to make a judgement? …probably not. /end speculation

[Ridgewood 79]

Had many of these guys in my neighborhood ( Bushwick/Ridgewood two that come to mind is two guys around Phil rastelli one was the old man winters ( Irish guy) yeah I know he came off Italian but lots of respect growing up I always thought he was up there cause of the level of respect and tony the Indian (lnu) he was real close to rastelli and a real tough guy but never made! Yeah there was tons of these guys in that life

[CornerBoy]

ridgewood- never heard of those guys. very interesting.

im sure we'd all like to hear whatever you comfortable talking bout

[Proletarian187]

John Nardi from Cleveland.

Big name in mob history who definitely "should" have been made. I know his status has been disputed back and forth but no solid evidence on him being made iirc?

Good one. What was the reason for him being passed over again?

Bad timing, was around when Cleveland inducted pretty much no one for years. Got disgruntled and started backing Danny Greene and that was that.. I believe he was considered disrespectful and possibly uneducated on the life.

[Newyorkempire]

John Nardi from Cleveland.

Big name in mob history who definitely "should" have been made. I know his status has been disputed back and forth but no solid evidence on him being made iirc?

Good one. What was the reason for him being passed over again?

Bad timing, was around when Cleveland inducted pretty much no one for years. Got disgruntled and started backing Danny Greene and that was that.. I believe he was considered disrespectful and possibly uneducated on the life.

Nardi was a rat just like Greene. He had to side with him. Has nothing to do with Cleveland not inducting anyone for years or him being uneducated on the life

[Dapper_Don]

Tony Moscatiello with the Gambinos.

Thought he was made later in life

[jmack]

Frankie flowers. Media speculated he may become the boss after Bruno. Obviously, he was never made.