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I just re-read the Lovaglio topic and two things catch my attention.
Firstly; the Coddington Club incident where the Bonnano's went with 10 to 20 guys to the club where the Lucchese's were hanging out. At the club supposedly were present DiNapoli, Crea, DeLuca etc. A German Bonanno associate took a knife of someone and there was an argument and only lasted like 10 minutes. Crea said to the German guy "you i won't forget". There is also a mention of a hit attempt on him the next day.

Now i ask, we all read and heard how the mob won't kill a guy, an informer or anyone that easy. How come this was attempted by Crea?

Secondly, are there any other showdowns like this? I remember one in early 2000's where supposedly Arnold Squitieri and the Gambino's confronted some Albanese guys in a warehouse? Not sure where i read that, could be Falcone's book.
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An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
The Bonanno’s are lucky that they didn’t do this after the 2017 transition from the Bronx to Brooklyn
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Little_Al1991 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
The Bonanno’s are lucky that they didn’t do this after the 2017 transition from the Bronx to Brooklyn
I always read it like the top Lucchese guys were already in the club including Crea when the Bonnano's entered it. The German associate was guarding the front door and since he was a 'nobody' he is the most likely to get hit right?
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From what I can remember all of the Lucchese’s were in the club except for Crea. The Bonanno’s all rushed inside but left the German outside to guard the door. Crea must have seen them go in from wherever he was and when he tried to go inside the German wouldn’t let him in. Chances are the German had no idea who Crea was and he was just doing what he was told.
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Thanks for the info johnny_scootch. Oh my God, just noticed i wrote Albanese instead of Albanians...
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Little_Al1991 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
The Bonanno’s are lucky that they didn’t do this after the 2017 transition from the Bronx to Brooklyn
Ulzheimer is still alive?
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Mukremin wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:13 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
The Bonanno’s are lucky that they didn’t do this after the 2017 transition from the Bronx to Brooklyn
Ulzheimer is still alive?
He is but he’s also on the shelf
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johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:31 pm From what I can remember all of the Lucchese’s were in the club except for Crea. The Bonanno’s all rushed inside but left the German outside to guard the door. Crea must have seen them go in from wherever he was and when he tried to go inside the German wouldn’t let him in. Chances are the German had no idea who Crea was and he was just doing what he was told.
I think that German dude ulzheimer definitely knew who Crea was. I’ve seen pics with him hanging out with a lot of mob guys and associates. And they are both from the Bronx.
That’s the guy, Adriana. My Uncle Tony. The guy I’m going to hell for.
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Little_Al1991 wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:12 am
He is but he’s also on the shelf
I can’t tell if this is just a joke or not.

AntComello wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:40 am I think that German dude ulzheimer definitely knew who Crea was. I’ve seen pics with him hanging out with a lot of mob guys and associates. And they are both from the Bronx.
It’s certainly possible he knew him, if he did it just makes what he did all the more insane. Blocking the Underboss of a family from entering his own social club! He deserved that bullet he never got if so.
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AntComello wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:40 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:31 pm From what I can remember all of the Lucchese’s were in the club except for Crea. The Bonanno’s all rushed inside but left the German outside to guard the door. Crea must have seen them go in from wherever he was and when he tried to go inside the German wouldn’t let him in. Chances are the German had no idea who Crea was and he was just doing what he was told.
I think that German dude ulzheimer definitely knew who Crea was. I’ve seen pics with him hanging out with a lot of mob guys and associates. And they are both from the Bronx.
could you hare those pictures please? Can associates be shelved? :o
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Mukremin wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:36 am
AntComello wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:40 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:31 pm From what I can remember all of the Lucchese’s were in the club except for Crea. The Bonanno’s all rushed inside but left the German outside to guard the door. Crea must have seen them go in from wherever he was and when he tried to go inside the German wouldn’t let him in. Chances are the German had no idea who Crea was and he was just doing what he was told.
I think that German dude ulzheimer definitely knew who Crea was. I’ve seen pics with him hanging out with a lot of mob guys and associates. And they are both from the Bronx.
could you hare those pictures please? Can associates be shelved? :o
They can’t be shelved but they can be “chased”, which is the equivalent for non-members.
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Mukremin wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:14 am I just re-read the Lovaglio topic and two things catch my attention.
Firstly; the Coddington Club incident where the Bonnano's went with 10 to 20 guys to the club where the Lucchese's were hanging out. At the club supposedly were present DiNapoli, Crea, DeLuca etc. A German Bonanno associate took a knife of someone and there was an argument and only lasted like 10 minutes. Crea said to the German guy "you i won't forget". There is also a mention of a hit attempt on him the next day.

Now i ask, we all read and heard how the mob won't kill a guy, an informer or anyone that easy. How come this was attempted by Crea?

Secondly, are there any other showdowns like this? I remember one in early 2000's where supposedly Arnold Squitieri and the Gambino's confronted some Albanese guys in a warehouse? Not sure where i read that, could be Falcone's book.
The Rudaj organization in late 1990s early 2000s attacked gamblind den protected by Gambino and Lucchese families so Squitieri and 20 made men try to kill Rudaj in a gas station but Rudaj mance to blow up all the gas station and the wiseguys must go away. Rudaj was sentenced in 2004 along with his fellow Nardino Colotti the former Gambino associate that passed with the Albanians.
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Name: ALEX RUDAJ

Register Number: 02381-748

Age: 56
Race: White
Sex: Male

Release Date: 11/23/2027

Located At: FCI Fort Dix

Name: NARDINO COLOTTI

Register Number: 19098-054

Age: 61
Race: White
Sex: Male

Release Date: 10/29/2027

Located At: FCI Loretto
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Mukremin wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:13 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
The Bonanno’s are lucky that they didn’t do this after the 2017 transition from the Bronx to Brooklyn
Ulzheimer is still alive?
Alive and well,he is a nazist.
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furiofromnaples wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:48 am
Mukremin wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:13 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
The Bonanno’s are lucky that they didn’t do this after the 2017 transition from the Bronx to Brooklyn
Ulzheimer is still alive?
Alive and well,he is a nazist.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/bronx/comments ... felon_and/

Wow! Is that really him? Thanks Furio,
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