Mob's show of force
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Mob's show of force
I just re-read the Lovaglio topic and two things catch my attention.
Firstly; the Coddington Club incident where the Bonnano's went with 10 to 20 guys to the club where the Lucchese's were hanging out. At the club supposedly were present DiNapoli, Crea, DeLuca etc. A German Bonanno associate took a knife of someone and there was an argument and only lasted like 10 minutes. Crea said to the German guy "you i won't forget". There is also a mention of a hit attempt on him the next day.
Now i ask, we all read and heard how the mob won't kill a guy, an informer or anyone that easy. How come this was attempted by Crea?
Secondly, are there any other showdowns like this? I remember one in early 2000's where supposedly Arnold Squitieri and the Gambino's confronted some Albanese guys in a warehouse? Not sure where i read that, could be Falcone's book.
Firstly; the Coddington Club incident where the Bonnano's went with 10 to 20 guys to the club where the Lucchese's were hanging out. At the club supposedly were present DiNapoli, Crea, DeLuca etc. A German Bonanno associate took a knife of someone and there was an argument and only lasted like 10 minutes. Crea said to the German guy "you i won't forget". There is also a mention of a hit attempt on him the next day.
Now i ask, we all read and heard how the mob won't kill a guy, an informer or anyone that easy. How come this was attempted by Crea?
Secondly, are there any other showdowns like this? I remember one in early 2000's where supposedly Arnold Squitieri and the Gambino's confronted some Albanese guys in a warehouse? Not sure where i read that, could be Falcone's book.
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An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
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I always read it like the top Lucchese guys were already in the club including Crea when the Bonnano's entered it. The German associate was guarding the front door and since he was a 'nobody' he is the most likely to get hit right?Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
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From what I can remember all of the Lucchese’s were in the club except for Crea. The Bonanno’s all rushed inside but left the German outside to guard the door. Crea must have seen them go in from wherever he was and when he tried to go inside the German wouldn’t let him in. Chances are the German had no idea who Crea was and he was just doing what he was told.
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Thanks for the info johnny_scootch. Oh my God, just noticed i wrote Albanese instead of Albanians...
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Ulzheimer is still alive?Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
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He is but he’s also on the shelfMukremin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:13 amUlzheimer is still alive?Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
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I think that German dude ulzheimer definitely knew who Crea was. I’ve seen pics with him hanging out with a lot of mob guys and associates. And they are both from the Bronx.johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:31 pm From what I can remember all of the Lucchese’s were in the club except for Crea. The Bonanno’s all rushed inside but left the German outside to guard the door. Crea must have seen them go in from wherever he was and when he tried to go inside the German wouldn’t let him in. Chances are the German had no idea who Crea was and he was just doing what he was told.
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I can’t tell if this is just a joke or not.
It’s certainly possible he knew him, if he did it just makes what he did all the more insane. Blocking the Underboss of a family from entering his own social club! He deserved that bullet he never got if so.AntComello wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:40 am I think that German dude ulzheimer definitely knew who Crea was. I’ve seen pics with him hanging out with a lot of mob guys and associates. And they are both from the Bronx.
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could you hare those pictures please? Can associates be shelved?AntComello wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:40 amI think that German dude ulzheimer definitely knew who Crea was. I’ve seen pics with him hanging out with a lot of mob guys and associates. And they are both from the Bronx.johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:31 pm From what I can remember all of the Lucchese’s were in the club except for Crea. The Bonanno’s all rushed inside but left the German outside to guard the door. Crea must have seen them go in from wherever he was and when he tried to go inside the German wouldn’t let him in. Chances are the German had no idea who Crea was and he was just doing what he was told.
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They can’t be shelved but they can be “chased”, which is the equivalent for non-members.Mukremin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:36 amcould you hare those pictures please? Can associates be shelved?AntComello wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:40 amI think that German dude ulzheimer definitely knew who Crea was. I’ve seen pics with him hanging out with a lot of mob guys and associates. And they are both from the Bronx.johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:31 pm From what I can remember all of the Lucchese’s were in the club except for Crea. The Bonanno’s all rushed inside but left the German outside to guard the door. Crea must have seen them go in from wherever he was and when he tried to go inside the German wouldn’t let him in. Chances are the German had no idea who Crea was and he was just doing what he was told.
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The Rudaj organization in late 1990s early 2000s attacked gamblind den protected by Gambino and Lucchese families so Squitieri and 20 made men try to kill Rudaj in a gas station but Rudaj mance to blow up all the gas station and the wiseguys must go away. Rudaj was sentenced in 2004 along with his fellow Nardino Colotti the former Gambino associate that passed with the Albanians.Mukremin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:14 am I just re-read the Lovaglio topic and two things catch my attention.
Firstly; the Coddington Club incident where the Bonnano's went with 10 to 20 guys to the club where the Lucchese's were hanging out. At the club supposedly were present DiNapoli, Crea, DeLuca etc. A German Bonanno associate took a knife of someone and there was an argument and only lasted like 10 minutes. Crea said to the German guy "you i won't forget". There is also a mention of a hit attempt on him the next day.
Now i ask, we all read and heard how the mob won't kill a guy, an informer or anyone that easy. How come this was attempted by Crea?
Secondly, are there any other showdowns like this? I remember one in early 2000's where supposedly Arnold Squitieri and the Gambino's confronted some Albanese guys in a warehouse? Not sure where i read that, could be Falcone's book.
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Name: ALEX RUDAJ
Register Number: 02381-748
Age: 56
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Release Date: 11/23/2027
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Name: NARDINO COLOTTI
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Release Date: 10/29/2027
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Register Number: 02381-748
Age: 56
Race: White
Sex: Male
Release Date: 11/23/2027
Located At: FCI Fort Dix
Name: NARDINO COLOTTI
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Sex: Male
Release Date: 10/29/2027
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Alive and well,he is a nazist.Mukremin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:13 amUlzheimer is still alive?Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
The Bonanno’s are lucky that they didn’t do this after the 2017 transition from the Bronx to Brooklyn
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furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:48 amAlive and well,he is a nazist.Mukremin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:13 amUlzheimer is still alive?Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:27 am An official reason was never revealed but the amount of disrespect shown to Crea by that associate is probably the reason. He didn’t even let Crea enter the club.
The Bonanno’s are lucky that they didn’t do this after the 2017 transition from the Bronx to Brooklyn
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Wow! Is that really him? Thanks Furio,