38 years today...

[knockaround_ny]

Paul Castellano and Tommy Bilotti were whacked by Gotti and friends outside of Sparks
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.Wm6Cl0GJA ... ImgDetMain

[Adam]

Imagine if there'd been a Blackhand Forum back then!

[Sol]

Arguable the worst day for the Gambino family......Sol

[SonnyBlackstein]

Arguable the worst day for the Gambino family......Sol

Disagree.

When Gotti removed plea bargaining from the table.
That was their worst day.

Imagine how many guys would've bargained, be out, not flipped.

[Browniety86]

Arguable the worst day for the Gambino family......Sol

Disagree.

When Gotti removed plea bargaining from the table.
That was their worst day.

Imagine how many guys would've bargained, be out, not flipped.

Other than Gravano, who flipped that did actually damage to the Gambinos within their ranks? Dom Borghese? Nah...Primo Caasarino...Nope...Peter Vaccaro (associate)...I don't think so...That and you saw Joe Butch basically tell Gotti to go fuck himself and pled out on his case in the early 90s, albeit with John Sr in prison for life without already...

[Sol]

Arguable the worst day for the Gambino family......Sol

Disagree.

When Gotti removed plea bargaining from the table.
That was their worst day.

Imagine how many guys would've bargained, be out, not flipped.

If Dec 16 1985 never happens Gotti never becomes boss and Gotti never has the authority to make a no plea deal......Sol

[Southshore88]

Arguable the worst day for the Gambino family......Sol

Disagree.

When Gotti removed plea bargaining from the table.
That was their worst day.

Imagine how many guys would've bargained, be out, not flipped.

Other than Gravano, who flipped that did actually damage to the Gambinos within their ranks? Dom Borghese? Nah...Primo Caasarino...Nope...Peter Vaccaro (associate)...I don't think so...That and you saw Joe Butch basically tell Gotti to go fuck himself and pled out on his case in the early 90s, albeit with John Sr in prison for life without already...

Dileonardo definitely got squeezed while in prison when he was looking at potential decades. If the Pete Gotti admin was not in place and he had the option to plead out, very easily could have been a whole different story.

I think it’s also disingenuous to discount Gravano flipping as he put a ton of members away too.

[Browniety86]

Arguable the worst day for the Gambino family......Sol

Disagree.

When Gotti removed plea bargaining from the table.
That was their worst day.

Imagine how many guys would've bargained, be out, not flipped.

Other than Gravano, who flipped that did actually damage to the Gambinos within their ranks? Dom Borghese? Nah...Primo Caasarino...Nope...Peter Vaccaro (associate)...I don't think so...That and you saw Joe Butch basically tell Gotti to go fuck himself and pled out on his case in the early 90s, albeit with John Sr in prison for life without already...

Dileonardo definitely got squeezed while in prison when he was looking at potential decades. If the Pete Gotti admin was not in place and he had the option to plead out, very easily could have been a whole different story.

I think it’s also disingenuous to discount Gravano flipping as he put a ton of members away too.

Can't believe I forgot about DiLeonardo...thanks Southshore

[Cheech]

Still wild that happened. Right in mid town. Wild

[Cheech]

By the way. Who would want to go to dinner in mid town Manhattan at that time. The traffic alone would make me wanna kill myself.

[CornerBoy]

if you work in midtown on east side its easy to walk to smith and wollensky, sparks, etc

[Cheech]

Those guys didnt work in midtown lol.

[CornerBoy]

good pt, Cheech merry xmas

[Cheech]

Same to you my man. My office i go to a few times a month is on broadway and 41st across from Joes Pizza…

[CornerBoy]

Thats cool

i work in very southern CT 2-3 x; per week ---------reverse commute