rayray wrote:I forgot about Joe Colombo, I guess there is always a possibility that the commission wasn't happy how public the guy was and it could have been sanctioned in order to get out of the limelight. I thought he was asked to take a step back?
I always thought Albert Anastasia's murder was sanctioned due to his erratic behavior?
Bad for business. Gravano mentioned how the Families supported the first big rally, closed the docks supposedly, but they also supposedly stood down on the second one. I agree with some opinions that Gambino was behind the move on Colombo, or he at least gave his OK...a la Funzi with Caponigro. B posted the Biondo/Patriarca transcripts, and man, Carlo Gambino was a wily motherfucker who played the OC game to the fullest. Some info in there also mentioning Carl and Tommy Brown who seemed to "favor" the Gallos.
I believe they really played up AA selling buttons as why they went ahead without the OK...that and greed and power. Them not making any members forever sorta goes along with it. Who knows, maybe Albert was just bad for business too.
Teflon john wrote:everyone knew Castellano couldn't hold up to serious prison time,he would have ratted faster than Henry Hill.
I love it how people know who 'rats' are who've never ratted.
I don't buy he would have ratted, more like the jig was up for almost the whole commission. After the commission case, think about who Gigante was left with on the commission level. Castellano knew where it was going, one of two places...he said it on tape. Maybe if Amuso/Casso didn't decide to wipe out everyone in their own family Gotti and crew would have been taken out for what they did to the boss.
Teflon john wrote:Also i would bet even though unsanctioned ,nobody did anything about cause everyone knew Castellano couldn't hold up to serious prison time,he would have ratted faster than Henry Hill.
Or, they didn't do anything because the entire Commission was on trial, not to mention a big piece of the Bonanno's who were still reeling from Donnie Brasco.
JMO, Chin may have been too smart to make his move at that time. But, fast forward a couple years, and Frankie goes boom. Plus, and as Pogo noted, the info about the hit on Gotti comes about.