An excerpt of William D'elia new book.

[Pmac2]

Did he ever induct new guys or did he just let it flame out? He was a so called boss for what 10 15 yrs

[nizarsoccer]

Did he ever induct new guys or did he just let it flame out? He was a so called boss for what 10 15 yrs

He let it flame out. The biggest issue with this book in my opinion is he didn't explain his thought process as to why he let the Family die out and not induct new people. It wasn't for a lack of associates, he had a 100 and some were Italian. He even said he had a "street boss", but he wasn't inducted either.

[CabriniGreen]

Did he ever induct new guys or did he just let it flame out? He was a so called boss for what 10 15 yrs

He let it flame out. The biggest issue with this book in my opinion is he didn't explain his thought process as to why he let the Family die out and not induct new people. It wasn't for a lack of associates, he had a 100 and some were Italian. He even said he had a "street boss", but he wasn't inducted either.

What kills me is the theory that these guys don't need criminality to join the mafia.


If that's actually true, you kinda need to ask why ANY family died out then? If it's just a click of businessmen with questionable morality.

[CornerBoy]

I would give the book a 6/10 , didn’t really think it was that good . I personally wouldn’t recommend this one
Some cool photos in the book , a few pieces of info I found interesting but overall kinda dull

You read the whole thing, already?

yeah its only 200 some pages read it on a plane ride back and forth ,

I just did jfk to lax and back

[Stroccos]

I would give the book a 6/10 , didn’t really think it was that good . I personally wouldn’t recommend this one
Some cool photos in the book , a few pieces of info I found interesting but overall kinda dull

You read the whole thing, already?

yeah its only 200 some pages read it on a plane ride back and forth ,

I just did jfk to lax and back

Thoughts on the book ?

[CornerBoy]

Pretty interesting. You probably know half already.

[UTC]

I guess nobody understood the question. Mafia 101. I asked whether he breached omerta, which is different from being a rat. In other words, did he divulge the secrets of the organization? If Carlo Gambino called the cops on the kid next door for shoplifting, he would be a rat but would not have breached omerta.
Maybe D'Elia did both.

He literally wrote a book about his life in the mafia, yes he divulged “secrets” about the mafia. He didn’t give too much new info, but him recognizing Bufalino as boss or Stefano LaTorre as a member is giving away information about the life.

Gotcha. I just asked the question. I didn't read the book. Thanks

[UTC]

He’s a rat. He testified against another LCN associate and then went on to write a book. He thinks because he didn’t put a wire on or testify in Philly or NYC that he’s not a rat. Not how this works…

I never read that he doesn't think he's a rat. Now that I read this stuff, he's not only a rat but broke omerta as well.

[UTC]

Did he ever induct new guys or did he just let it flame out? He was a so called boss for what 10 15 yrs

He let it flame out. The biggest issue with this book in my opinion is he didn't explain his thought process as to why he let the Family die out and not induct new people. It wasn't for a lack of associates, he had a 100 and some were Italian. He even said he had a "street boss", but he wasn't inducted either.

It has been said that Pittsburgh was not allowed by the commission (Genovese really) to make new members. I always found that a little weird, but does D'elia mention anything about that kind of prohibition?

[Sullycantwell]

Did he ever induct new guys or did he just let it flame out? He was a so called boss for what 10 15 yrs

He let it flame out. The biggest issue with this book in my opinion is he didn't explain his thought process as to why he let the Family die out and not induct new people. It wasn't for a lack of associates, he had a 100 and some were Italian. He even said he had a "street boss", but he wasn't inducted either.

It has been said that Pittsburgh was not allowed by the commission (Genovese really) to make new members. I always found that a little weird, but does D'elia mention anything about that kind of prohibition?

Nope, I believe the only time he mentioned the commission was when he said Russell Bufalino was “above the commission”

[Tonyd621]

Did he ever induct new guys or did he just let it flame out? He was a so called boss for what 10 15 yrs

He let it flame out. The biggest issue with this book in my opinion is he didn't explain his thought process as to why he let the Family die out and not induct new people. It wasn't for a lack of associates, he had a 100 and some were Italian. He even said he had a "street boss", but he wasn't inducted either.

It has been said that Pittsburgh was not allowed by the commission (Genovese really) to make new members. I always found that a little weird, but does D'elia mention anything about that kind of prohibition?

Nope, I believe the only time he mentioned the commission was when he said Russell Bufalino was “above the commission”

I think what he means by this is when the commission had meetings, Russell Bufalino, was used as someone they went to advice for. Above the commission makes no sense. Most experienced members on here never heard that before so I believe it's an exaggeration and an ego thing with Delia.

[nizarsoccer]

Did he ever induct new guys or did he just let it flame out? He was a so called boss for what 10 15 yrs

He let it flame out. The biggest issue with this book in my opinion is he didn't explain his thought process as to why he let the Family die out and not induct new people. It wasn't for a lack of associates, he had a 100 and some were Italian. He even said he had a "street boss", but he wasn't inducted either.

It has been said that Pittsburgh was not allowed by the commission (Genovese really) to make new members. I always found that a little weird, but does D'elia mention anything about that kind of prohibition?

No nothing of that sort. He mentioned he stopped going to New York after John Gotti got locked up and was loosing touch with those Families. It's frustrating he never elaborated as to why he didn't want to induct new people even though there were plenty of associates.

[Stopflexing]

He did testify against Louie DeNaples, that is a rat at the end of the day.

[Sullycantwell]

Did he ever induct new guys or did he just let it flame out? He was a so called boss for what 10 15 yrs

He let it flame out. The biggest issue with this book in my opinion is he didn't explain his thought process as to why he let the Family die out and not induct new people. It wasn't for a lack of associates, he had a 100 and some were Italian. He even said he had a "street boss", but he wasn't inducted either.

It has been said that Pittsburgh was not allowed by the commission (Genovese really) to make new members. I always found that a little weird, but does D'elia mention anything about that kind of prohibition?

Nope, I believe the only time he mentioned the commission was when he said Russell Bufalino was “above the commission”

I think what he means by this is when the commission had meetings, Russell Bufalino, was used as someone they went to advice for. Above the commission makes no sense. Most experienced members on here never heard that before so I believe it's an exaggeration and an ego thing with Delia.

No I think he literally felt Bufalino was above the commission. Some mobsters like Mikey Scars are historians, D’Elia is whatever the opposite of that is. D’Elia seems to not even know how the commission functioned. Overall, D’Elia was very honest (from what I can tell) but he just didn’t know a lot of history.

[russ123_]

Just finished book. I give it a 7/10. Love the first hand info on bufalino ( it was basically a bufaliino book). And loved the frank Sheeran stuff about him having 6 different versions of is book