Buffalo/Ontario Mob Acitivity

[NickleCity]

Over 35 redacted pages on the government's evidence of Italian Organized Crime in Buffalo in their response in opposition to the defenses motion to preclude all evidence of Italian Organized Crime at trial. Read the document and you will get a good idea of the case the government intends to made. It is fascinating the way they are going about it. See: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .533.0.pdf

[Stroccos]

Over 35 redacted pages on the government's evidence of Italian Organized Crime in Buffalo in their response in opposition to the defenses motion to preclude all evidence of Italian Organized Crime at trial. Read the document and you will get a good idea of the case the government intends to made. It is fascinating the way they are going about it. See: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .533.0.pdf

Really sounds like like a bunch of nothing burger regarding any Buffalo lcn activity

[AntComello]

Would u mind explaining what gamesmanship is for myself and the other not so bright posters here lol

The judge has a "connection" to two of the witnesses the defense may call. He was "vexed" that these names were included and thanks this is "tactic" by the defense. We are not told what that "tactic" would be. As of right now that would just be a guess. Playing this guessing game one could surmise it is to delay the case further. The prosecution has already implied that Bongiovanni's attorney Mr. Harrington resigned to delay the trial and suggested the extra time might be used to get to witnesses the government planned to use. The previous felony case against Gerace took over 6 years to reach a judgment than another couple of years in appeal. I'm not an attorney but that certainly seems as if delay could have been the a strategy and part of the "gamesmanship" in that case.

Gotcha thanks for explaining

[antimafia]

Going back in time.

He was a teen when cops branded him ‘the devil.’ Decades later, he was baptized to a standing ovation.
Leon Robert Blais was a notorious child criminal. Today, he’s entrusted with the keys to a downtown church. Has he redeemed himself?
https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-r ... a0ee2.html

Excerpt:

[Leon Robert] Blais didn’t know much about his biological grandfather, George Joseph Hasler, who died before he was born. It was only as an adult that he came to understand that he was essentially a hitman for the Mob.

After one of Blais’ many arrests, he happened to find himself on the same Barton jail range as the now dead Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano. Hamilton’s criminal underworld can be a small community, especially behind bars, and Blais knew everybody.

When he got to the range Musitano approached and handed Blais a book. They shook hands.

“I didn’t know your grandfather was George Hassler?” Musitano said, handing over a copy of “The Enforcer” by Adrian Humphreys, about the life and death of crime boss Johnny “Pops” Papalia.

On Page 77, the book talks of Papalia expanding his organization. This included moving “the much-feared Joe Hasler” to “designated enforcer.”

It was through this book and later conversations that Blais learned who his grandfather was. His mom later told him stories about her dad, who spent much of her life in prison.

[TommyGambino]

So absolutely nothing linking this to Buffalo LCN? Scott is acting like it’s a bombshell

[Newyorkempire]

So absolutely nothing linking this to Buffalo LCN? Scott is acting like it’s a bombshell

How is it nothing linking it to LCN? Its his nephew and all 3 brothers would be made if they didnt have direct interfamilial beef with their uncle.

If anything hes more LCN than his Uncle based on his current and past charges and connections.

[OcSleeper]

And what is this interfamilial beef?

Pretty sure Nickle only spoke of rumours of one and if he could go more into it that'd be appreciated.

[TommyGambino]

So absolutely nothing linking this to Buffalo LCN? Scott is acting like it’s a bombshell

How is it nothing linking it to LCN? Its his nephew and all 3 brothers would be made if they didnt have direct interfamilial beef with their uncle.

If anything hes more LCN than his Uncle based on his current and past charges and connections.

Fucking hell

[NickleCity]

So absolutely nothing linking this to Buffalo LCN? Scott is acting like it’s a bombshell

It certainly may end up being nothing, but the government alleges the next 35 1/2 completely redacted pages, after the screenshot below, relate to the evidence they have of Italian Organized Crime in WNY. In the footnote the government tells the court that those redacted pages are not exhaustive and just an overview of the nature of IOC evidence it intends to introduce in court. That seems like more than nothing to me, in fact it seems significant in my opinion. Guess we will have to wait and see what they really have when this case finally makes it to court—if it does. I’ve been told over 90% of federal cases in a plea.

[NickleCity]

And what is this interfamilial beef?

Pretty sure Nickle only spoke of rumours of one and if he could go more into it that'd be appreciated.

Yes I’ve only heard rumors, nothing I can verify. From what I’ve heard Gerace was upset he hasn’t been made yet. That being said Todaro told the Buffalo News he hasn’t talked to his nephews in years. So maybe there is something to this. However, IMHO, it just as likely that this is a narrative they are creating to insulate Todaro. After court documents indicted witness have indicated Gerace told them he was in the mafia, indicating he was made. Exaggeration by Gerace? who knows.

[AntComello]

Yea I’d bet that this is all bullshit and it’s all a ploy to make it look like Todaro isn’t involved.

[TommyGambino]

So absolutely nothing linking this to Buffalo LCN? Scott is acting like it’s a bombshell

It certainly may end up being nothing, but the government alleges the next 35 1/2 completely redacted pages, after the screenshot below, relate to the evidence they have of Italian Organized Crime in WNY. In the footnote the government tells the court that those redacted pages are not exhaustive and just an overview of the nature of IOC evidence it intends to introduce in court. That seems like more than nothing to me, in fact it seems significant in my opinion. Guess we will have to wait and see what they really have when this case finally makes it to court—if it does. I’ve been told over 90% of federal cases in a plea.

Thanks Nickle

[Newyorkempire]

And what is this interfamilial beef?

Pretty sure Nickle only spoke of rumours of one and if he could go more into it that'd be appreciated.

Cut his sister out of the La Nova spoils. Bullied senior for years. Always looked down on them. Etc.

[NickleCity]

And what is this interfamilial beef?

Pretty sure Nickle only spoke of rumours of one and if he could go more into it that'd be appreciated.

Cut his sister out of the La Nova spoils. Bullied senior for years. Always looked down on them. Etc.

And if this bad blood narrative is true, the feds are going to push hard to get Gerace to flip on his uncle.

[TommyGambino]

And what is this interfamilial beef?

Pretty sure Nickle only spoke of rumours of one and if he could go more into it that'd be appreciated.

Cut his sister out of the La Nova spoils. Bullied senior for years. Always looked down on them. Etc.

And if this bad blood narrative is true, the feds are going to push hard to get Gerace to flip on his uncle.

That’s if he actually knows anything