There has been a lot of conflicting info from authorities.DoubleZ wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:26 pmWhat the hell are they doing in Thunder Baystubbs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:58 pmI believe it’s 7 locali in the Toronto metro area, and 2 more outside of the GTA in southern Ontario (Thunder Bay, London, etc), making 9 total.Wiseguy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:53 amI think something along those lines has also led to the idea (false, in my opinion) of there being 7, 9, etc. Ndrangheta clans in Toronto (and Thunder Bay). I think sometimes a guy will get labeled an Ndrangheta clan boss when he's not, as well as people from the same clans being listed separately. The idea of 9 clans is what seems to have led to the idea of 450 Ndrangheta members in the Greater Toronto Area, i.e. an Italian prosecutor took that number 9, multiplied it by the rule of having 49 or 51 members each, and came up up with ~ 450 members. Never mind this would be a greater concentration of organized crime members in the GTA than even in New York metropolitan area.johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:24 amThat’s Canadian journalism for you, everyone has their own crime family and if you’re not Sicilian you’re an Ndrangheta boss.
And the estimates are 350 members in the GTA and another 100 or so outside.
But I can’t remember if those numbers came from LE, a journalist, or somewhere else.? Thats NW Ontario on Lake Superior. I can imagine that’s an incredibly tiny cell.
The London-Sarnia-Windsor area seems ripe for OC activity. 2 massive international border crossings, and the narrow St. Clair river that divides Michigan (near the thumb) and Ontario is less than 1km wide in areas.
As evidence, we’ve seen a large drug smuggling bust involving players out of this area late last year in “Project Gateway”.
Anyone know of affiliations with these groups?
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7 clans for Toronto was mentioned by an Italian prosecutor in Project Crimine in 2010. But when you read the clan head names and there is some apparent overlap. For instance, Cosimo Figliomeni and Angelino Figliomeni are mentioned separately.
In 2013, an Italian prosecutor (Gratteri) said they had identified 9 localis just in Toronto. However, that same year the RCMP cited only 5 clans in Toronto, with "two factions" in Thunder Bay. As far as Thunder Bay goes, I agree with Nicaso who said while there may be some Ndrangheta members that live in Thunder Bay, there isn't an active clan.
If the 5 mentioned in 2013 were the same 5 Stephen Metelsky (former RCMP) listed in 2021, they would be DeMaria, Figliomeni, Coluccio, Commisso, and Tavernese. But I'm not sure this is correct either. Vincenzo Tavernese is with the Coluccios, if I'm not mistaken, and Vincenzo DeMaria may be with the Commissos. Also, none of these mention the Ursino clan.
Looking at the cases going back quite a ways, as well as the rather detailed maps the DIA released about 5 years ago, I can identify 4 clans from 2 locali in the GTA - all coming from the same area on the Ionian Coast of Calabria. From the Siderno Locale there is the Commisso 'Ndrina and the Figliomeni-Rumbo 'Ndrina. And from the Marina di Gioiosa Ionica Locale there is the Aquino-Coluccio 'Ndrina and the Ursino-Jerino-Scali 'Ndrina.
Incidentally, for Ndrangheta cases in New York, it's been primarily the Marina di Gioiosa Ionica groups there, i.e. Aquino-Coluccio (includes Vincenzo Roccisano and his nephews Vincenzo and Giulio Schirripa) in 2008 and the Ursinos in 2014. The exception would be the Alvaro Ndrina(from Sinopoli) in 2015, who Gregorio Gigliotti was an affiliate of.
