We almost never talk about when Peter Gotti because boss because it laughable but

[CornerBoy]

Peter gottis waterfront trial he was offered 4 years while everyone on the case had offers of 2-6 years. Instead of taking the deals and everyone getting light sentences, he forced them all to go to trial. This resulted in him getting 9 years and Sunny getting close to 15. Cassarino got 12 years and ultimately co operated after that. His brother Richie and Nephew also got a couple years each. He knew he had a second case coming for the plot on Sammy the whole time. He was dumb and selfish. He thought about himself, instead of thinking of the greater good the men getting back to the streets. He actually used tapes of his brothers calling him a moron to try and defend how could he be the boss. But as others wrote on here he was the Boss and everyone listened.

Dopey move on PG's part. wish the feds put a murder on richard gotti and got it him to completely flip. but has he pulled the trigger or fag richie jr?

[CabriniGreen]

I am no Gotti fan - but John Gotti actually had a high IQ and you could tell he was intelligent from his letters from prison, if you read them one day. He was no dummy; simply just not educated. But likely of very high raw IQ. Don’t know as much about Peter, but people who knew Peter said he wasn’t that bright iirc Mikey Scars said as much - and he adored John

I think his "raw" verbal intelligence was quite high. You can tell this from some of the weird, funny shit he would say. Like when he went off on his son's friends' nicknames and started making up hilarious fake ones -- that isn't the kind of joke a stupid guy cracks. To me he sounded like a guy with high innate verbal intelligence but no formal education on top of it (as you noted).

Yeah, quite frankly also, many have noted John had a particularly great sense of “sussing out” if you will Mafia politics - the Mafia as we know is as political as a government in many ways - in addition to his noted extremely high charisma (people who knew him stated he was considered extremely charismatic and persuasive even back in the early 60s, before he was anybody)

This innate sense of persuasion and of “reading the room” among a bunch of other just as ambitious guys, and a savvy way of playing politics within said group is an indicator - to me - of quick witted analytical intelligence, besides the verbal intelligence you note. If he was educated, I could easily see Gotti having been a CEO - he had the charisma, social and emotional intelligence, charisma, quick wit and ego to be in a leading position in any organization.

But then, the same is true of many Bosses. Castellano, Costello, Genovese, Accardo could easily have been totally legitimate, high powered executives. These were all men of probably genius or near genius level IQ were it to be tested - just not educated.

Read Gotti’s letter from prison to a soldier stationed in Bosnia that had written to him - for a man of only a high school education, he had quite a way with words.

It's actually funny to me how many downplay the fact that Gotti read Machiavelli... his whole power play.... the way he conducted mafia politics. It's like he through action, repeated the book almost verbatim....

[Pmac2]

Peter gotti was also offered a plea of 12 years or some shit for the Sammy plot. He screwed that up to would have run concurrent he would have died at home years ago

[Pmac2]

One thing pete had the brooklyn docks kicking up to him all the way into the 2000s. So if they were kicking up I'm sure everyone else might have been. Showing he wasn't that much a pushover

[Browniety86]

Peter gottis waterfront trial he was offered 4 years while everyone on the case had offers of 2-6 years. Instead of taking the deals and everyone getting light sentences, he forced them all to go to trial. This resulted in him getting 9 years and Sunny getting close to 15. Cassarino got 12 years and ultimately co operated after that. His brother Richie and Nephew also got a couple years each. He knew he had a second case coming for the plot on Sammy the whole time. He was dumb and selfish. He thought about himself, instead of thinking of the greater good the men getting back to the streets. He actually used tapes of his brothers calling him a moron to try and defend how could he be the boss. But as others wrote on here he was the Boss and everyone listened.

Dopey move on PG's part. wish the feds put a murder on richard gotti and got it him to completely flip. but has he pulled the trigger or fag richie jr?

Is Richie Jr really a homo?

[CornerBoy]

I wouldn't know but he looks like one

[Uforeality]

I always had the impression that even tho P. Gotti was the boss, larger and more important decisions were being made by the more powerful Capos. Kicking up to the boss isn't a big deal. Pete probably made a boat load of cash. He also took a boat load of heat and was made to pay that price with his freedom.

[TommyGambino]

I wouldn't know but he looks like one

Why are you always talking about gays, bit weird

[SonnyBlackstein]

Pete Gotti ever have kids?

[JohnnyS]

Pete Gotti ever have kids?

Daughters and Peter Gotti Jr. While in prison, Gotti was getting money from the Gambino administration. JoJo Corozzo (consigliere at the time) was using his son to give it to Peter Jr. Gotti jr believed that Joseph Corozzo jr was stealing some of it.

[Mikeymike12]

Can’t really see Peter having a sit down with Westside /Chins Acting Boss and Joe Massino etc ..etc....

Peter was there for the 2000 meeting, along with Massino, Larry Dentico, Louis Daidone, and Joel Cacace.

I knew about that meeting I was just stating I can’t literally see Pete sitting at a Commission meeting with the power houses of the other families.......and he is the boss of the Powerful Gambino’s . ( would love to know what everyone was really thinking )

[B.]

When Allie Persico was released from prison he went around asking the other Families to recognize his father as official boss again and Pete Gotti initially didn't want to but Michael DiLeonardo was close to the Persicos and convinced him. Be interesting to know if he finally agreed to do it on his own or had the consent of his brother.

[SonnyBlackstein]

We all thought Amuso was out and Crea the 'real power'. Wonder if it was similar with Pete (until he flipped).

[NYNighthawk]

Peter had a very nice goomad but he phucked that up too!