Guys who are ashamed to be in the life
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Guys who are ashamed to be in the life
I'm not talking rats, nor am i talking about guys who are on their deathbed and want to go somewhere nice after they die.
I'm talking guys who are in the life, live by the code and wish they picked another line of work. Besides Jack Bonventure of the Bonannos...
I'm talking guys who are in the life, live by the code and wish they picked another line of work. Besides Jack Bonventure of the Bonannos...
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Joe Pungitore based on his I have a dream comments
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Los Angeles member Jimmy Caci, towards the end of his life in 2011, told former associate Kenji Gallo that the mob wasn't "all that it was cracked up to be" and that LCN life was "all messed up."
"I can’t deal with this. I can’t believe it goes on there. I can’t. Only in Ohio.” - Carmine Agnello
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Not the same, but I've read a few times, a few older mobsters will sometimes say, 'I am who I am, I did what I did', as a way of accepting and admitting the poor decisions that they made in their lives, sometimes murder.
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more than one would think
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In 1972 (right before his death) Outfit boss Ross Prio was called to testify before a federal grand jury and so he told the committee something similar like “I want to live out my life in peace. I am what I am. I have been this way all my life. I can’t become a fink now.”
Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God - Corinthians 6:9-10
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I don't know of ashamed is the word but Kenji wrote in his book how, when he'd be over at John Baudanza's place and John would be drinking, sometimes he'd get in these dark, emotional moods where he'd complain that he got pushed into the life by his family and it seemed like it wasn't really what he wanted. The unrelated comment by Johnny Sideburns about Baudanza only caring about wearing Yankee gear and his big house on Staten Island follows that.
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It would be interesting to know more information about John Baudanza. As far as I know he was with Colombo with his uncle and father and then introduced to Lucchese…Wiseguy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:31 pm I don't know of ashamed is the word but Kenji wrote in his book how, when he'd be over at John Baudanza's place and John would be drinking, sometimes he'd get in these dark, emotional moods where he'd complain that he got pushed into the life by his family and it seemed like it wasn't really what he wanted. The unrelated comment by Johnny Sideburns about Baudanza only caring about wearing Yankee gear and his big house on Staten Island follows that.
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It's hard to know, but Cleveland's Al Polizzi and KC's Joseph Gurera distanced themselves from their former associates, becoming active in the Church before their deaths. That suggests they had some regrets.
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I’d be willing to bet anything there are guys who got hit with a huge amount of time in the 70s or 80s that now wish they would’ve cooperated. Especially some of the guys that passed in prison in recent years. Imagine spending your final years on this planet housed like an animal in a Covid infested prison. Probably haven’t had their cock touched by a woman in 25 years. Brutal. And I’m sure there are some active members getting up there in years that have some regret about things they’ve done.
But on the same token Mikey Scars has said multiple times he regrets cooperating and said the Feds just caught him at a time when he was weak. Anthony Arillotta regrets being associated with wiseguys and committing violence, but he’s not necessarily remorseful about being a criminal. I think if he had to do it over again he just woulda sold weed and coke and used that money to open a club.
But on the same token Mikey Scars has said multiple times he regrets cooperating and said the Feds just caught him at a time when he was weak. Anthony Arillotta regrets being associated with wiseguys and committing violence, but he’s not necessarily remorseful about being a criminal. I think if he had to do it over again he just woulda sold weed and coke and used that money to open a club.
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His introduction to the Luccheses came, in part, from marrying Danny Cutaia's daughter.Nurzhamba wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:42 pmIt would be interesting to know more information about John Baudanza. As far as I know he was with Colombo with his uncle and father and then introduced to Lucchese…Wiseguy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:31 pm I don't know of ashamed is the word but Kenji wrote in his book how, when he'd be over at John Baudanza's place and John would be drinking, sometimes he'd get in these dark, emotional moods where he'd complain that he got pushed into the life by his family and it seemed like it wasn't really what he wanted. The unrelated comment by Johnny Sideburns about Baudanza only caring about wearing Yankee gear and his big house on Staten Island follows that.
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Smokeshow by the way.gohnjotti wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:02 pmHis introduction to the Luccheses came, in part, from marrying Danny Cutaia's daughter.Nurzhamba wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:42 pmIt would be interesting to know more information about John Baudanza. As far as I know he was with Colombo with his uncle and father and then introduced to Lucchese…Wiseguy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:31 pm I don't know of ashamed is the word but Kenji wrote in his book how, when he'd be over at John Baudanza's place and John would be drinking, sometimes he'd get in these dark, emotional moods where he'd complain that he got pushed into the life by his family and it seemed like it wasn't really what he wanted. The unrelated comment by Johnny Sideburns about Baudanza only caring about wearing Yankee gear and his big house on Staten Island follows that.
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she's nice looking. how old is his daughter now? 25?
Q: What doesn't work when it's fixed?
A: A jury!
A: A jury!
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disregard the above statement please
Q: What doesn't work when it's fixed?
A: A jury!
A: A jury!
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