Angelo Lonardo Breaks Mafia in Ohio

[Tonyd621]

Did Angelo Lonardo really break the mob in the mid west or is it over-stated?

[JCB1977]

Did Angelo Lonardo really break the mob in the mid west or is it over-stated?

He BROKE the Cleveland Family. Bar none. He also hurt KC...He also allowed for Teamster Local's to be under Federal Supervision. He was also a key witness in the Commission trial in NYC. At the time, he was "the highest" ranking member of the mafia to turn state's evidence.

[NorthBuffalo]

I don't think Lonardo was the death nail of the midwest mob families but he was very instrumental in breaking their stranglehold on the Teamsters - and that was arguably their largest income stream - especially some of these smaller families. I believe he was the first one who really detailed the Glick loan, the Presser family and how the money was being divided. Maybe that would suffice to say he broke their back financially. The whole thing came crashing down on a lot of his testimony and information.

[JCB1977]

I don't think Lonardo was the death nail of the midwest mob families but he was very instrumental in breaking their stranglehold on the Teamsters - and that was arguably their largest income stream - especially some of these smaller families. I believe he was the first one who really detailed the Glick loan, the Presser family and how the money was being divided. Maybe that would suffice to say he broke their back financially. The whole thing came crashing down on a lot of his testimony and information.

Never did I say “Midwest” families. He certainly broke Cleveland into pieces…they never recovered. Their membership was weakened. He was in this thing from the beginning and Cleveland was one of the strongest families in the entire country going back to the old days, they were a nationally known syndicate with some of the most powerful mobsters in the country. Let alone the Mayfield Road Mob/Jewish Syndicate. He knew a lot and had relationships all over the country. I believe either Jackie Cerone or Joey Doves in Chicago were affected by his testimony. His most damage was done to Cleveland and you are 100%, correct, put a stranglehold on their stream of income from the unions.

[NorthBuffalo]

I don't think Lonardo was the death nail of the midwest mob families but he was very instrumental in breaking their stranglehold on the Teamsters - and that was arguably their largest income stream - especially some of these smaller families. I believe he was the first one who really detailed the Glick loan, the Presser family and how the money was being divided. Maybe that would suffice to say he broke their back financially. The whole thing came crashing down on a lot of his testimony and information.

Never did I say “Midwest” families. He certainly broke Cleveland into pieces…they never recovered. Their membership was weakened. He was in this thing from the beginning and Cleveland was one of the strongest families in the entire country going back to the old days, they were a nationally known syndicate with some of the most powerful mobsters in the country. Let alone the Mayfield Road Mob/Jewish Syndicate. He knew a lot and had relationships all over the country. I believe either Jackie Cerone or Joey Doves in Chicago were affected by his testimony. His most damage was done to Cleveland and you are 100%, correct, put a stranglehold on their stream of income from the unions.

Agree 100%. Only thing I will say is that he did testify against Cerone and Aiuppa, neither of those guys were hurting quite as bad as I expect the KC and Milwaukee families were after Lonardo spilled the beans about the Teamsters and Vegas skim. Chicago was a big family but not these smaller cities - I think Detroit was the only one who stayed relatively untouched from Londardo.

[JCB1977]

I agree. Detroit worked closely with Cleveland through Whitey Besase in Toledo and Jack Licavoli. Jack had strong family ties through Yonnie Licavoli and company, thus, Jack White was the conduit between the two families. Lonardo was a regular at Tony Salerno's farm, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for their chats.

[davidf1989]

Wasn't Angelo Lonardo the underboss to Jack Licavoli when the Cleveland family was fighting Greene and Nardi?

[Stroccos]

Wasn't Angelo Lonardo the underboss to Jack Licavoli when the Cleveland family was fighting Greene and Nardi?

He took over as underboss when Leo moceri got killed

[FriendofFamily]

I have enjoyed everyone's comments and contributions and restatements of this important figure Angelo Lonardo. I don't know where I would start to give some of the finer points and tidbits of information. Currently, I haven't the time to put enough into it to make it worthwhile for anyone. So, all I will say for now is Great Job!

[Antiliar]

Lonardo gives interview at 90 years old...Funny story, after I graduated from college, my best friend moved to Gates Mills in Cleveland and lived in an apartment building...every day, he would speak to his elderly neighbor about the Cleveland Indians...I met this guy several times while visiting my buddy and we spent an afternoon on his back patio one evening talking about baseball. I was gambling at the time and put some money on the Indians and this guy gave me a lecture about gambling and what it does to people. I had no fucking clue it was Angelo Lonardo until after he passed away. He and his wife were estranged but not divorced.

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I almost interviewed him. It was a missed opportunity. I arranged it through his grandnephew but then he told me Angelo wanted $500 for it. By the time I got the money he was very sick and was unable to give any interviews, and he passed away shortly after that.

[Stroccos]

Lonardo gives interview at 90 years old...Funny story, after I graduated from college, my best friend moved to Gates Mills in Cleveland and lived in an apartment building...every day, he would speak to his elderly neighbor about the Cleveland Indians...I met this guy several times while visiting my buddy and we spent an afternoon on his back patio one evening talking about baseball. I was gambling at the time and put some money on the Indians and this guy gave me a lecture about gambling and what it does to people. I had no fucking clue it was Angelo Lonardo until after he passed away. He and his wife were estranged but not divorced.

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I almost interviewed him. It was a missed opportunity. I arranged it through his grandnephew but then he told me Angelo wanted $500 for it. By the time I got the money he was very sick and was unable to give any interviews, and he passed away shortly after that.

Damn that sucks
I bet Lonardo had a treasure of info if only asked the right questions

[stubbs]

Great thread! Interesting one of those newspaper articles on the first page has Carmen Policy mentioned as one of their lawyers. And a different article is about the developer Ed DeBartolo.

Ed DeBartolo’s son Ed Junior was the 49ers owner for several decades, during when they won five super bowls. Carmen Policy was his right hand man running the Niners back then. DeBartolo eventually was forced to give up his ownership of the team after he tried to bribe the governor of Louisiana for a casino license (if memory serves me correctly). He turned the team over to his sister Denise York, and now his nephew, Denise’s son, Jed York runs the team.

Policy eventually left the Niners to run the Cleveland Browns when they came back into the league for the 99 season. But eventually he either quit or got fired as the team was pretty bad.

I don’t know if Ed Senior was mobbed up when they were in Youngstown, does anyone know that history? I just know the football stuff.

[Tonyd621]

Lonardo gives interview at 90 years old...Funny story, after I graduated from college, my best friend moved to Gates Mills in Cleveland and lived in an apartment building...every day, he would speak to his elderly neighbor about the Cleveland Indians...I met this guy several times while visiting my buddy and we spent an afternoon on his back patio one evening talking about baseball. I was gambling at the time and put some money on the Indians and this guy gave me a lecture about gambling and what it does to people. I had no fucking clue it was Angelo Lonardo until after he passed away. He and his wife were estranged but not divorced.

https://www.facebook.com/RealCrimeChann ... 306451697/

I almost interviewed him. It was a missed opportunity. I arranged it through his grandnephew but then he told me Angelo wanted $500 for it. By the time I got the money he was very sick and was unable to give any interviews, and he passed away shortly after that.

What does gambling do to people? What did he say?

[Frank]

I know Ed Debartolo tried to buy Chicago White Sox, but was denied. The Commissioner Bowie Kuhn was against it. White Sox fans were pissed about that when Forty Niners won all those Super Bowls. We could have had Debartolo ownership and possibly great success

[FriendofHenry]

Great thread! Interesting one of those newspaper articles on the first page has Carmen Policy mentioned as one of their lawyers. And a different article is about the developer Ed DeBartolo.

Ed DeBartolo’s son Ed Junior was the 49ers owner for several decades, during when they won five super bowls. Carmen Policy was his right hand man running the Niners back then. DeBartolo eventually was forced to give up his ownership of the team after he tried to bribe the governor of Louisiana for a casino license (if memory serves me correctly). He turned the team over to his sister Denise York, and now his nephew, Denise’s son, Jed York runs the team.

Policy eventually left the Niners to run the Cleveland Browns when they came back into the league for the 99 season. But eventually he either quit or got fired as the team was pretty bad.

I don’t know if Ed Senior was mobbed up when they were in Youngstown, does anyone know that history? I just know the football stuff.

I knew Ed Sr. and Jr. well. Both knew the local "guys" but certainly not mobbed up with any of them.