What is your favorite era of CN and why?
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Re: What is your favorite era of CN and why?
Forgot to mention Ohio (especially Youngstown) from Murder Town, USA through the Danny Greene war up to the Strollo meltdown. So, Ohio about 1960 to about 2000.
Hasn't happened yet, but now through 2050 is gonna be fascinating to watch because of the demographic collapse that is coming. Will be a great deal of strain on the underworld comparable to what RICO wrought in the 80s and 90s.
Hasn't happened yet, but now through 2050 is gonna be fascinating to watch because of the demographic collapse that is coming. Will be a great deal of strain on the underworld comparable to what RICO wrought in the 80s and 90s.
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Re: What is your favorite era of CN and why?
-For the American Cosa Nostra 1920-1931 because I find the D'Aquila/Masseria era fascinating. + All the feuds in other cities (Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, St Louis, ...)
As I'm also interested by the Bonanno & Los Angeles Crime Families, I add the post 1931-mid 80s era for them
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Cosa Nostra 1955-1981. The vegetables markets war, the creation of the Cupola, the first Mafia War, the rebuild of the Cupola... However I don't care about Riina and his pals that's why my interest stop here in 1981.
Regarding the Camorra mid-70s-1985 because of the influence of Cosa Nostra and the war with the NCO.
'ndrangheta History from the 60s to the early 90s is also fascinating.
-And as I'm very interested by drug trafficking (French & Pizza Connection, Canada, Australia) I'd say the mid-40s-mid-80s for that
As I'm also interested by the Bonanno & Los Angeles Crime Families, I add the post 1931-mid 80s era for them
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Cosa Nostra 1955-1981. The vegetables markets war, the creation of the Cupola, the first Mafia War, the rebuild of the Cupola... However I don't care about Riina and his pals that's why my interest stop here in 1981.
Regarding the Camorra mid-70s-1985 because of the influence of Cosa Nostra and the war with the NCO.
'ndrangheta History from the 60s to the early 90s is also fascinating.
-And as I'm very interested by drug trafficking (French & Pizza Connection, Canada, Australia) I'd say the mid-40s-mid-80s for that
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The 1980s was interesting all around. Some highlights:
NYC - Donnie Brasco, 3 Capo Murder, Pizza Connection Castellano hit, Commission Case, Gotti
Philadelphia - Bruno/Testa Murders, Riccobene War, Scarfo
NE - Angiulo Bust, Renegade Faction War, Medford Induction Recording
Chicago - Strawman Case, Spilotro Killings, Operation Greylord/Gambit
Cleveland - Lonardo Testimony
NYC - Donnie Brasco, 3 Capo Murder, Pizza Connection Castellano hit, Commission Case, Gotti
Philadelphia - Bruno/Testa Murders, Riccobene War, Scarfo
NE - Angiulo Bust, Renegade Faction War, Medford Induction Recording
Chicago - Strawman Case, Spilotro Killings, Operation Greylord/Gambit
Cleveland - Lonardo Testimony
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All of the above. But especially the 70s onward. Currently, they are in the process of rejuvenating the operations and command structures from 50 years ago...motorfab wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:58 am
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Cosa Nostra 1955-1981. The vegetables markets war, the creation of the Cupola, the first Mafia War, the rebuild of the Cupola... However I don't care about Riina and his pals that's why my interest stop here in 1981.
Regarding the Camorra mid-70s-1985 because of the influence of Cosa Nostra and the war with the NCO.
'ndrangheta History from the 60s to the early 90s is also fascinating.
-And as I'm very interested by drug trafficking (French & Pizza Connection, Canada, Australia) I'd say the mid-40s-mid-80s for that
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Another interesting era I also love to read is about the second conflict between Chicago Outfit and the their Northside accomplices which occurred during the 1940s, and also regarding the conflict between Ricca and Accardo from the early 1950's and the look of the top administration from that same period.
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Re: What is your favorite era of CN and why?
I have no interest whatsoever in the mafia pre-1970.
Re: What is your favorite era of CN and why?
1976 through the mid-nineties.
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Next year B takes up tennis.
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Always been fascinated by both the LaRocca and Genovese eras of the Pittsburgh borgata. Really interesting stuff.
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90s-early 2000 bonnanos. Obvious reasons.
Mid 90s Genovese. Chin’s schtick. Barney’s rise. Javitz center. Ralphie’s disappearance.
70s-80s Rochester. Still think a better book or movie should be made about the wars.
2010s-present Philly. Interesting in that we still don’t know how so many high profile guys are really able to earn. Lots of chiefs. Seemingly no construction or union infiltration. Different factions. In a way, it’s almost like some guys are holding on to the life for local clout and to play a part. Would also be interested in knowing more about their Boston crew.
Mid 90s Genovese. Chin’s schtick. Barney’s rise. Javitz center. Ralphie’s disappearance.
70s-80s Rochester. Still think a better book or movie should be made about the wars.
2010s-present Philly. Interesting in that we still don’t know how so many high profile guys are really able to earn. Lots of chiefs. Seemingly no construction or union infiltration. Different factions. In a way, it’s almost like some guys are holding on to the life for local clout and to play a part. Would also be interested in knowing more about their Boston crew.
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lol I always wondered this too. I could be wrong but what I suspect is that a lot of guys inherited the homes they own in south philly and have virtually no housing / living expenses. Still have tons of blood family and 'support' in the neighborhood. On top of that, with them constantly being out and about, I suspect a lot of stuff they get is 'on the arm' - free drinks, meals, people buying them shit all the time. They are like a grown up insular neighborhood version of the popular kids in high school. So, I always suspected it was stuff like this combined with them loaning out money to eachother and other associates and neighborhood people, and possibly some guys just living modestly off of old score money. Guys who had family in LCN which some of these philly guys seem to have, could have inherited cash from their Dad's too - earned during a time when making money in that life was a lot easier and more plentiful. From the outside looking in, the modern Philly guys especially the ones IN South Philly give off this air of entitlement where they are charging people money to be able to hang out with them, and they crowbar their way into any situation with money and just eat through it . They don't seem like a "making money" bunch as much as they seem like a "taking money" bunchsharpieone wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:40 pm
2010s-present Philly. Interesting in that we still don’t know how so many high profile guys are really able to earn. Lots of chiefs. Seemingly no construction or union infiltration. Different factions. In a way, it’s almost like some guys are holding on to the life for local clout and to play a part. Would also be interested in knowing more about their Boston crew.
I know there are a couple Philly guys or sons of old Philly stalwarts that are into local real estate, run successful businesses, etc - what I am talking about above I would apply more to the "instagram crew" and the guys who are always seemingly just hanging out drinking and tap dancing in the mummers parade
I do think it's kind of cool how many white / italian people have decided to stay in South Philly proper going on generations now. I've been to Philly a lot and I'm not used to wide open spaces myself coming from NY, but something about those extremely small row houses and those narrow, treeless streets, seems very claustrophobic to me
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I dunno man, the Merlino crew was dropping bodies well into the 2000s. They were trying to tighten their grip on something.
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Re: What is your favorite era of CN and why?
Boston during the sixties
Los Angeles when Micky Cohen and Jack Dragna were fighting each other.
Los Angeles when Micky Cohen and Jack Dragna were fighting each other.