Allie Boy Persico turns 69 years old today

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Allie Boy Persico turns 69 years old today

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There’s not exactly to much known about Little Allie Boy
Anybody got any stories about him and does anybody know what type of a guy he was on the street?
“He can’t take what’s not his” Allie Boy said that about Cutolo after his disappearance
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Extremely well-liked and respected in his own right according to DiLeonardo and Fiordilino. Didn't just capitalize on his father's name.

Also funny story from an older post I made:
- Another time Baldo Amato and Cesare Bonventre ran into Allie Boy Persico (the son) and invited him to come to a bar/club where Carmine Galante was hanging out with his daughter Nina and her boyfriend. Allie Persico called Galante "Lilo" and Galante stopped him and said to call him Carmine as only his friends are allowed to call him "Lilo".
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He is just a wiseass punk. He was only made becuase his old man is the Boss.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:02 pm He is just a wiseass punk. He was only made becuase his old man is the Boss.


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What would an administration of Allie Boy as boss and Wild Bill as underboss have been like, has Allie not got paranoid and clipped Bill?
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Wonder if Allie Boy still holds power over people
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I used to have his daughter on IG, as soon as Teddy got released she disappeared
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B. wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:08 pm Extremely well-liked and respected in his own right according to DiLeonardo and Fiordilino. Didn't just capitalize on his father's name.

Also funny story from an older post I made:
- Another time Baldo Amato and Cesare Bonventre ran into Allie Boy Persico (the son) and invited him to come to a bar/club where Carmine Galante was hanging out with his daughter Nina and her boyfriend. Allie Persico called Galante "Lilo" and Galante stopped him and said to call him Carmine as only his friends are allowed to call him "Lilo".
Thank you for sharing
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:02 pm He is just a wiseass punk. He was only made becuase his old man is the Boss.


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It was definitely easier for him in the life because of his father but he also did become the Acting Boss and ended up calling the shots from prison for a certain period of time
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Shellackhead wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:39 pm Wonder if Allie Boy still holds power over people
He was the Acting Boss for a while after his incarceration which is strange because his father was the official boss at the time who also was incarcerated.
Wikipedia claims he lost the Acting Boss spot in 2019, after his father passed away but when Russo was indicted in 2021, they called him the Colombo “street boss”
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Whos the boss? He is the boss in name or there is a old guard guy that iscthe de facto boss?
The Colombos should use a ruling panel so the LE would understand who is really the boss.
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Browniety86 wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:26 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:02 pm He is just a wiseass punk. He was only made becuase his old man is the Boss.


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What would an administration of Allie Boy as boss and Wild Bill as underboss have been like, has Allie not got paranoid and clipped Bill?
If he didn't kill Cutolo and get arrested, Allie probably would have followed through with the plot to murder Ralph Lombardo and gone down for that. I personally don't think Allie was as smart as the media made him out to be. He did a terrible job at insulating himself from the murders he ordered and didn't need much convincing to whack people, despite all the LE heat in the late '90s.
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gohnjotti wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:25 am
Browniety86 wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:26 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:02 pm He is just a wiseass punk. He was only made becuase his old man is the Boss.


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What would an administration of Allie Boy as boss and Wild Bill as underboss have been like, has Allie not got paranoid and clipped Bill?
If he didn't kill Cutolo and get arrested, Allie probably would have followed through with the plot to murder Ralph Lombardo and gone down for that. I personally don't think Allie was as smart as the media made him out to be. He did a terrible job at insulating himself from the murders he ordered and didn't need much convincing to whack people, despite all the LE heat in the late '90s.
He beat a case from behind bars if I remember correctly.It was in relation to the 3rd Colombo War.He also did 1 year in college.
He did seem a little ruthless but I believe this may have been because his father was most likely his mentor.Allie Boy must have took that page from his father
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Little_Al1991 wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:58 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:02 pm He is just a wiseass punk. He was only made becuase his old man is the Boss.


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It was definitely easier for him in the life because of his father but he also did become the Acting Boss and ended up calling the shots from prison for a certain period of time

It was a quote from the book Donnie Brasco. One of the associates around Jilly Greca was bitching about how he had put in more work than the guys getting made into the Colombos (including Little Allie Boy).


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Little_Al1991 wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:20 am
gohnjotti wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:25 am
Browniety86 wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:26 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:02 pm He is just a wiseass punk. He was only made becuase his old man is the Boss.


Pogo
What would an administration of Allie Boy as boss and Wild Bill as underboss have been like, has Allie not got paranoid and clipped Bill?
If he didn't kill Cutolo and get arrested, Allie probably would have followed through with the plot to murder Ralph Lombardo and gone down for that. I personally don't think Allie was as smart as the media made him out to be. He did a terrible job at insulating himself from the murders he ordered and didn't need much convincing to whack people, despite all the LE heat in the late '90s.
He beat a case from behind bars if I remember correctly.It was in relation to the 3rd Colombo War.He also did 1 year in college.
He did seem a little ruthless but I believe this may have been because his father was most likely his mentor.Allie Boy must have took that page from his father
He beat the case and he indeed spent a lot of time working on his own legal case and aiding his defense team. However, the charges against him in the 1993 case were weak; Allie was behind bars for the entire conflict and there was no direct evidence from any witnesses that he ordered any hits during the war. I am not too familiar with the trial itself but I know that the cooperating witnesses like Carmine Sessa and Larry Mazza never actually met Allie or could directly link him to the war.

Allie's next arrest came when the FBI raided his boat in Florida - ironically named 'Not Guilty' - and found a loaded handgun. Real clever Allie. Then, he gets Cutolo whacked. Cutolo was last seen en route to a meeting with Persico. The meeting was in Cutolo's electronic organizer. Again, not very clever on Allie's part. Not to mention phone records between Allie and Bill shortly before Bill's disappearance. Then, Allie and Jackie DeRoss start visiting Cutolo's widow and searching for loansharking records & cash in her house. All the while Cutolo's son is on the street wearing a wire against DeRoss to avenge his dad.

Then, the FBI searches Allie's house and finds incriminating loansharking records. If I recall correctly, there was even a membership list, or proposed membership list, or something along those lines also discovered. Not very forward-thinking of Allie.

From what I have read about Allie it seems he let his ego get the best of him. It seemed he felt like he was untouchable to the government, probably riding high on his 1993 acquittal. When he murdered Cutolo, he didn't seem to consider that everyone and their aunt knew the order came from him.

EDIT: Also, I don't know if this is a strike against Allie's intelligence or ability as a boss, but installing Ralph DeLeo as street boss to throw off law enforcement was an absolute failure.
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gohnjotti wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:15 am Not to mention phone records between Allie and Bill shortly before Bill's disappearance.

And it was on a phone that Allie knew the Feds were monitoring as part of his parole. So yeah he was an idiot.


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