Matteo Messina Denaro Arrested

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B. wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:07 pm A+

Had no idea the Guttadauros intermarried with the Messina Denaros and had members in both Brancaccio and Castelvetrano. So Filippo is Giuseppe's brother?
Yes,Filippo is Giuseppe's brother, there is also Carlo Guttadauro a capo in Bagheria family.Guttadauro's are one of the most powerful families in Sicilian mafia.
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Wow, yeah that's like royal houses intermarrying. We're not talking municipal power, that's generations of national influence. Obviously guys like Pennino flipping hurt them but I don't think anyone truly knows how extensive their political relationships are/were.
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a buddy of mine from sicily told me a long time ago, these guys who are on the run are on the run until their friends decide they're not important enough no more, and then they're arrested
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rayray wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:44 pm a buddy of mine from sicily told me a long time ago, these guys who are on the run are on the run until their friends decide they're not important enough no more, and then they're arrested
That was the case of Riina. Provenzano gave him so he can rebuilt Cosa Nostra using the submarime tatic and made more money that headlines.
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Wiseguy wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:57 pm
Strax wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:41 am
John W wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:38 am Now that he has been arrested, who becomes Italy’s new most wanted mob boss?
Probably Giovanni Motisi, also Sicilian mafia boss , wanted since 1998. Nothing about him is known , some say he is dead, several informants said he is alive and in hiding in Sicily.
Now that MMD has been captured, Motisi is the only other Cosa Nostra boss on Europol's list.
Pmac2 wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:22 pm Doesn't look that bad. Looks like a 60ty year old. Nice clothes.
Including a watch worth 35,000 euros.

if he has billions he could have sprung for a 100K watch
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Police uncovered hidden bunker behind a wardrobe that was used by MMD, in house of former politician Errico Risalvato acquitted of mafia charges in 2001.Errico is brother of Giovanni Risalvato a concrete entrepreneur.
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Strax wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:49 am Police uncovered hidden bunker behind a wardrobe that was used by MMD, in house of former politician Errico Risalvato acquitted of mafia charges in 2001.Errico is brother of Giovanni Risalvato a concrete entrepreneur.
Amazing. Thanks for these updates Strax!
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Is there any new info about MMD’s doctor? Apparently he was a member of Salvatore Cufaro’s political party and a freemason.
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sisterray wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 am Is there any new info about MMD’s doctor? Apparently he was a member of Salvatore Cufaro’s political party and a freemason.
Giuseppe Guttadauro?
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PolackTony wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:35 am
sisterray wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 am Is there any new info about MMD’s doctor? Apparently he was a member of Salvatore Cufaro’s political party and a freemason.
Giuseppe Guttadauro?
Alfonso Tumbarello. Cufaro was of course connected to Guttadauro and the Brancaccio family.

Here’s the source. Just for the record, I got it translated through google and have no knowledge which Italian sources are reputable.

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2023/0 ... 40296/amp/
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sisterray wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:46 am
PolackTony wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:35 am
sisterray wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 am Is there any new info about MMD’s doctor? Apparently he was a member of Salvatore Cufaro’s political party and a freemason.
Giuseppe Guttadauro?
Alfonso Tumbarello. Cufaro was of course connected to Guttadauro and the Brancaccio family.

Here’s the source. Just for the record, I got it translated through google and have no knowledge which Italian sources are reputable.

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2023/0 ... 40296/amp/
Ah, of course. Tumbarello according to other sources was a regional candidate (Trapani) for election in the 2000s under Cuffaro’s UDC party, so that part seems to check out. That he was a member of the Campobello Masonic lodge also seems to check out, as I see references to the head of the Grand Orient of Italy having suspended him from activities following the MMD arrest.
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Giuseppe Guttadauro is also a freemason, last year he was asked to help a wife of another freemason settle her 16$ million dispute with UniCredit bank in Rome.
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Tumbarello is connected to Michele Aiello,also a member of Cuffaro party. They seized 800$ millions from him , including five private clinics and cancer-center in Bagheria.
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Strax wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:31 am Thanks to m2w for posting:

Boiardo said it 2 months ago, he said he was sick and that they would arrest him in order to a present to the actual government.He also said that it has something to do with life sentence law. Full interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vYTD7uDy0A

"May a little gift arrive?...Maybe, let's assume, that a Matteo Messina Denaro is very ill and makes a deal to surrender himself to make a sensational arrest?"
Now available with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uscnYebyT0
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Strax wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:15 am Giuseppe Guttadauro is also a freemason, last year he was asked to help a wife of another freemason settle her 16$ million dispute with UniCredit bank in Rome.
I posted about this.... he also oversaw some traffic from Brazil..
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