Gangland 12/1/2022

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Re: Gangland 12/1/2022

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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:19 am From the way it reads Lastorino was no longer on the shelf when he died.
Do we know up until when Pennisi had him shelved?

Being on the shelf doesn't prevent members paying respects at a funeral, IIRC?
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:19 am From the way it reads Lastorino was no longer on the shelf when he died.
Do we know up until when Pennisi had him shelved?

Being on the shelf doesn't prevent members paying respects at a funeral, IIRC?
He was still on the shelf when Pennisi flipped. He said that Lastorino wouldn't get off it as long as Amuso is boss.

Sammy Aparo was shelved by Barney and Genovese members showed up to his wake. I guess it depends.
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The way I read it sounds like he was in that guy joe Cafe crew.
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Weren't there rumours of Paradiso's health being bad? He's in his 80s so I'm sure he has some issues but I remember someone saying he was in bad last maybe late last year.
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TSNYC wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:10 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:49 am So Joe Lanni is in fact capo. Noted....
It’s amazing, his brother is a detective with the Brooklyn DA, I believe. Talk about a conflict. Brooklyn DA detectives were probably at the wake taking photos.
His wife has wealthy connections as well
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Re: Gangland 12/1/2022

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Pmac2 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:00 pm The way I read it sounds like he was in that guy joe Cafe crew.
That’s interesting, I thought the same thing
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JohnnyS wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:40 am
He was still on the shelf when Pennisi flipped. He said that Lastorino wouldn't get off it as long as Amuso is boss.

Sammy Aparo was shelved by Barney and Genovese members showed up to his wake. I guess it depends.
My point exactly.

Pennisi had him shelved when he flipped, 2018. Lastorino went away, and could've been shelved as early as 1994. There's no sign of him being active at any time upon his 08 release, so likely shelved at least then, and as late as 1994.
This indicates Lastorino was on the shelf for as little as 10 (08-18) and as many as 28 years (94-death).
I can't see why you'd shelved a guy for 10 years (+) then change your mind. Maybe, but unlikely.

And if it's not uncommon for members to pay respects at funerals, guys showing up at his funeral doesn't mean anything.
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Southshore88 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:53 pm
Pmac2 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:00 pm The way I read it sounds like he was in that guy joe Cafe crew.
That’s interesting, I thought the same thing
Maybe, could've also just know the guy a long time.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:19 am From the way it reads Lastorino was no longer on the shelf when he died.
Do we know up until when Pennisi had him shelved?

Being on the shelf doesn't prevent members paying respects at a funeral, IIRC?
unless you're Joe c
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JohnnyS wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:18 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:49 am So Joe Lanni is in fact capo. Noted....
He's been a captain for 5 or 6 years now.
I know that. This relates to Sylvestro Davi. I follow all this shit.
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JohnnyS wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:40 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:19 am From the way it reads Lastorino was no longer on the shelf when he died.
Do we know up until when Pennisi had him shelved?

Being on the shelf doesn't prevent members paying respects at a funeral, IIRC?
He was still on the shelf when Pennisi flipped. He said that Lastorino wouldn't get off it as long as Amuso is boss.

Sammy Aparo was shelved by Barney and Genovese members showed up to his wake. I guess it depends.
Why was Sammy Meatballs shelved? Cause of the Cookie D'Urso thing?
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There was a crew of Colombo guys. That where all shelved guys because they supported orena. Anthony Colombo and a few others. They did business with other family's but where technically on the Colombo family's shelf. Probably a order from carmine but really wasn't inforced
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Re: Gangland 12/1/2022

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Browniety86 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:13 pm
JohnnyS wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:40 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:34 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:19 am From the way it reads Lastorino was no longer on the shelf when he died.
Do we know up until when Pennisi had him shelved?

Being on the shelf doesn't prevent members paying respects at a funeral, IIRC?
He was still on the shelf when Pennisi flipped. He said that Lastorino wouldn't get off it as long as Amuso is boss.

Sammy Aparo was shelved by Barney and Genovese members showed up to his wake. I guess it depends.
Why was Sammy Meatballs shelved? Cause of the Cookie D'Urso thing?
Not sure. Capeci said that he was put on the shelf by Barney in around 2015.
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Lastorino looks different in damn near every picture he's in . Some of those older shots of him he kinda looks like Kevin Nealon from SNL. Would be cool to hear Lastorino's back story and who he came up under. He was a Canarsie guy but wasn't in the Vario crew (right?) - old photos of him with DeMeo when presumably DeMeo was a Lucchese associate .
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Re: Gangland 12/1/2022

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JohnnyS wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:40 am
Sammy Aparo was shelved by Barney and Genovese members showed up to his wake. I guess it depends.
I always thought that Genovese members were allowed to attend out of respect for Sammy’s son who was a made guy also.

In reference to Frank so many members from all families showing up to a funeral for a guy who was on the shelf for so long is very odd. Maybe there’s more to it we don’t know.
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