Anthony Russo Gets a Sentence Reduction

[newera_212]

I feel like this whole "soft on crime," low or no bail for previously convicted felons has allowed ppl like Russo and the other guy that was mentioned in the article to be let out. It's the political climate we are in. And they did more time then some of these others who commited similar crimes.

The no cash bail thing in certain states and municipalities has nothing to do with what's being done at the federal level, which is a second chance type of act that was signed into effect by the president in 2018 to give old timers who have had lengthy sentences and have served a bulk of the time with good (great) behavior, and are at a low chance at recidivism, to be released at some point. Not sure if he felt this way personally but there were a lot of people in Trump's ear about the prison population being way too high, expensive, and there were a lot of old timers and/or non violent criminals locked up for long periods of time. He signed something in to help change this.

I can't speak to other states/areas but I know the low/no cash bail thing in NYC stemmed from a kid in early 2010s who was locked up in Rikers for suspicion of stealing a bookbag. Him and his family could not afford bail and he was there for somewhere between 7 months and a year (I forget the exact time) , refused to plead guilty to something he didn't do. The witness who said he stole the bookbag was here illegally and returned to Mexico, the case got thrown out, and the kid killed himself shortly after he returned home. Combined with people being held indefinitely form the stop-and-frisk era of Bloomberg, these types of things were happening far too often , people getting locked up and held for way too long while losing just about everything (jobs, housing, etc.) on the outside...only to have cases dropped or be found innocent. Not to mention the shit that happens IN jail when they are locked.

Just like everything else the baby got thrown out with the bathwater though and it's obviously led to some problems. The media absolutely creams themselves whenever someone who gets ROR'ed or released without bail commits another crime shortly after though. That's their bread and butter right now.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Can someone post the article.

[TommyGambino]

A nephew I think

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure.

Well done Vacari

[Johnny1and1]

A nephew I think

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure.

Well done Vacari

lol.

[Wiseguy]

Just like everything else the baby got thrown out with the bathwater though and it's obviously led to some problems. The media absolutely creams themselves whenever someone who gets ROR'ed or released without bail commits another crime shortly after though. That's their bread and butter right now.

It's led to some problems? No cash "bail reform" has been an absolute disaster in every state it's in.

[Tonyd621]

Crime is the single biggest issue now in political races, hence Philadelphia (Fetterman and Dr Oz)

[JakeTheSnake630]

Was Russo released under the First Step Act?

[outfit guy]

Interesting as I incorrectly presumed both Russos passed while incarcerated.

[newera_212]

Just like everything else the baby got thrown out with the bathwater though and it's obviously led to some problems. The media absolutely creams themselves whenever someone who gets ROR'ed or released without bail commits another crime shortly after though. That's their bread and butter right now.

It's led to some problems? No cash "bail reform" has been an absolute disaster in every state it's in.

I don't follow other states too much and again, the bail reform thing is the media's bread and butter right now - but I know in NY this could have been stemmed by hiring more prosecutors and whoever does case reviews (paralegals? I don't know who that would be honestly) to speed things up for people. So someone who jumped a subway turnstile could be released the same night instead of possibly losing employment/housing because it took too long for them to get out.

At the same time though, for most 'regular' people - they would be ROR'ed on something like that in the first place. Someone with warrants, extensive priors, or possession of a weapon while they happened to jump the turnstile, they were never ROR'ed and were held, arraigned, etc. and had to do a jail stint if needed. As it should be.

Another baby-with-the-bathwater approach , monday morning quarterbacking bullshit - but I haven't really done any serious research yet into the actual nitty gritty; IF there really is a one sized fits all approach, and if there really is... what the reason behind it ostensibly is. Some half baked conspiracy theory thinking that I've heard of "if they treat the criminals good, they're buying up their good will, and ensuring themselves more votes" is bullshit because most of the cases we hear about in the media revolve around felons who can't vote and most likely wouldn't if they could.

Anyway two childhood friends/old neighbors of mine died of a heroin/fentanyl OD a few months apart and the drug dealer who was arrested over it made the news because he was released with no cash bail. Have no idea why or what the point of that was, he's had a ton of drug arrests and priors in the past. No weapons on the most recent case I guess. He was eventually prosecuted and is in prison now. Another anecdote - I know someone who was a really good kid and was arrested on suspicion of gun possession , not actual gun possession. A cop said he saw him stash a gun in a trash can outside of a very large apartment building that had drug activity there. He was hemmed up and put through the system and it took him over a month before it was thrown out (no gun recovered in said trashcan) because he couldn't afford the bail. In that time he lost his fairly decent paying job and his mother died. The whole thing is a mess and I agree, letting "everyone" walk is not a solution - but I'm curious to know if "everyone" really are walking... every single random act of violence in a major city is now correlated or crowbarred into bail reform, some of that has to be bullshit.

[Wiseguy]

Just like everything else the baby got thrown out with the bathwater though and it's obviously led to some problems. The media absolutely creams themselves whenever someone who gets ROR'ed or released without bail commits another crime shortly after though. That's their bread and butter right now.

It's led to some problems? No cash "bail reform" has been an absolute disaster in every state it's in.

I don't follow other states too much and again, the bail reform thing is the media's bread and butter right now - but I know in NY this could have been stemmed by hiring more prosecutors and whoever does case reviews (paralegals? I don't know who that would be honestly) to speed things up for people. So someone who jumped a subway turnstile could be released the same night instead of possibly losing employment/housing because it took too long for them to get out.

At the same time though, for most 'regular' people - they would be ROR'ed on something like that in the first place. Someone with warrants, extensive priors, or possession of a weapon while they happened to jump the turnstile, they were never ROR'ed and were held, arraigned, etc. and had to do a jail stint if needed. As it should be.

Another baby-with-the-bathwater approach , monday morning quarterbacking bullshit - but I haven't really done any serious research yet into the actual nitty gritty; IF there really is a one sized fits all approach, and if there really is... what the reason behind it ostensibly is. Some half baked conspiracy theory thinking that I've heard of "if they treat the criminals good, they're buying up their good will, and ensuring themselves more votes" is bullshit because most of the cases we hear about in the media revolve around felons who can't vote and most likely wouldn't if they could.

Anyway two childhood friends/old neighbors of mine died of a heroin/fentanyl OD a few months apart and the drug dealer who was arrested over it made the news because he was released with no cash bail. Have no idea why or what the point of that was, he's had a ton of drug arrests and priors in the past. No weapons on the most recent case I guess. He was eventually prosecuted and is in prison now. Another anecdote - I know someone who was a really good kid and was arrested on suspicion of gun possession , not actual gun possession. A cop said he saw him stash a gun in a trash can outside of a very large apartment building that had drug activity there. He was hemmed up and put through the system and it took him over a month before it was thrown out (no gun recovered in said trashcan) because he couldn't afford the bail. In that time he lost his fairly decent paying job and his mother died. The whole thing is a mess and I agree, letting "everyone" walk is not a solution - but I'm curious to know if "everyone" really are walking... every single random act of violence in a major city is now correlated or crowbarred into bail reform, some of that has to be bullshit.

The underlying problem is the hiring of leftist prosecutors (an oxymoron), many of them funded by George Soros. Their entire philosophy is based on identifying more with the criminal than the victim and a radical overhaul of the judicial system. Meanwhile, you have liberal politicians in various states who have gone with no cash bail in order to virtue signal. All the while knowing they won't be victims of their own policies. But many others have been. I'm not saying there aren't improvements that can be made, including in relation to what you said above. But what these politicians and prosecutors have done has only backfired and made things far, far worse.

[newera_212]

Just like everything else the baby got thrown out with the bathwater though and it's obviously led to some problems. The media absolutely creams themselves whenever someone who gets ROR'ed or released without bail commits another crime shortly after though. That's their bread and butter right now.

It's led to some problems? No cash "bail reform" has been an absolute disaster in every state it's in.

I don't follow other states too much and again, the bail reform thing is the media's bread and butter right now - but I know in NY this could have been stemmed by hiring more prosecutors and whoever does case reviews (paralegals? I don't know who that would be honestly) to speed things up for people. So someone who jumped a subway turnstile could be released the same night instead of possibly losing employment/housing because it took too long for them to get out.

At the same time though, for most 'regular' people - they would be ROR'ed on something like that in the first place. Someone with warrants, extensive priors, or possession of a weapon while they happened to jump the turnstile, they were never ROR'ed and were held, arraigned, etc. and had to do a jail stint if needed. As it should be.

Another baby-with-the-bathwater approach , monday morning quarterbacking bullshit - but I haven't really done any serious research yet into the actual nitty gritty; IF there really is a one sized fits all approach, and if there really is... what the reason behind it ostensibly is. Some half baked conspiracy theory thinking that I've heard of "if they treat the criminals good, they're buying up their good will, and ensuring themselves more votes" is bullshit because most of the cases we hear about in the media revolve around felons who can't vote and most likely wouldn't if they could.

Anyway two childhood friends/old neighbors of mine died of a heroin/fentanyl OD a few months apart and the drug dealer who was arrested over it made the news because he was released with no cash bail. Have no idea why or what the point of that was, he's had a ton of drug arrests and priors in the past. No weapons on the most recent case I guess. He was eventually prosecuted and is in prison now. Another anecdote - I know someone who was a really good kid and was arrested on suspicion of gun possession , not actual gun possession. A cop said he saw him stash a gun in a trash can outside of a very large apartment building that had drug activity there. He was hemmed up and put through the system and it took him over a month before it was thrown out (no gun recovered in said trashcan) because he couldn't afford the bail. In that time he lost his fairly decent paying job and his mother died. The whole thing is a mess and I agree, letting "everyone" walk is not a solution - but I'm curious to know if "everyone" really are walking... every single random act of violence in a major city is now correlated or crowbarred into bail reform, some of that has to be bullshit.

The underlying problem is the hiring of leftist prosecutors (an oxymoron), many of them funded by George Soros. Their entire philosophy is based on identifying more with the criminal than the victim and a radical overhaul of the judicial system. Meanwhile, you have liberal politicians in various states who have gone with no cash bail in order to virtue signal. All the while knowing they won't be victims of their own policies. But many others have been. I'm not saying there aren't improvements that can be made, including in relation to what you said above. But what these politicians and prosecutors have done has only backfired and made things far, far worse.

What's the motivation behind the Soros funding though? Vested interests in companies that will benefit from the inevitable pendulum swing back? Because that's gotta be coming

[Shellackhead]

I thought Chucky Russo died in prison from cancer

[Wiseguy]

What's the motivation behind the Soros funding though? Vested interests in companies that will benefit from the inevitable pendulum swing back? Because that's gotta be coming

In his case, I think it's based on his own socio-political philosophy. Not about profit but rather using his money to try and reshape things the way he thinks they should be. And again, he's in a position where he won't be affected by the fallout of the policies he's trying to push.

[Pogo The Clown]

I thought Chucky Russo died in prison from cancer

That was his cousin Joseph Russo (Andy's son).


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