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IMHO...RC was a Stand-up Guy :)
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JCB1977 wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:05 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:07 am
JCB1977 wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:03 pm
FriendofHenry wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 am
JCB1977 wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:37 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:04 am
Ivan wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:04 am
coldshoulder wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:52 pm 1:31 Junior Senzarino (looks like it's in a residential garage)
4:49 Ronnie Carabbia -- Yes
5:15 Joe DeRose, Sr. (innocent victim, same still photo in Whelan's story, the original subject of this thread)
5:20 ? (not 4:20 ) Unknown ??
5:22 Joe DeRose, Jr. -- Yes
5:24 Charlie Carabbia -- Yes
5:25 John Magda -- Likely, yes, the image is blurry, but he was suffocated and duct taped and left in a garbage dump
5:27 Robert Furey -- Likely, yes, he was shot to death while outside changing a tire
5:50 maybe ? Pete Cascarelli
5:54 to 5:56 Pretty sure this is Sam Scaffidi, not at 5:50
Didn't realize 5:15 and 5:20 were the same guy, but yeah that's DeRose Sr. in both I think? Thanks for your help.
1:31 Junior Senzarino was RC's cousin that ran Ronnie's poker games. There were several and I believe Joe DeRose Jr. killed him with a shotgun.
5:15 Joe DeRose Sr. really was an innocent victum as the hit was meant for Jr. :(
I have been told that 5:50 was also a semi innocent victim, or so I was told.
After decades of investigating the Junior Senzarino murder, through DNA analysis of blood on the scene from the broken window, professional hitman Robert Dorler from Medina, Oh admitted to the murder. He died while in prison a few years later after providing the FBI with info on unsolved murders. Sam Fossesca was convicted of killing Joe DeRose Jr.

Fair enough as I always though Joe Jr. did the deed. I go back to high school with Jr. He went to Wilson and I went to Mooney.
Biggest difference was I wanted to be a golfer while he always wanted to be a gangster. Did you personally know either Junior or Joe Jr.?

https://vindyarchives.com/news/2003/jul ... ask-force/

Nope, too young. My old man knew Junior from bocce league. He knew who Joe DeRose Jr was and was close in age but never interacted with him.
DA, I never considered that you're still a youngin' ;) Believe me your Dad missed nothing with Joe Jr. However he dated a real Baby Doll :)
Now that I think about it, I do recall reading about Robert Dorter confessing. As usual, your research is spot on.
All this time I thought Joe Jr. got wacked in retribution for Junior's murder and his Dad was a mistake. At least I was right about his Dad.
Joe’s girlfriend Cheryl was the wife if one of my dad‘s closest friends from the fire department and I grew up with her son who just died of an overdose.
Seems to be allot of ods lately probably Fentanyl
Orlando carabbia Jr recently died I believe it was a OD as well
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FriendofHenry wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:58 am Joe DeRose's girlfriend, Cherelle, was HOT stuff :mrgreen:
Pics of these hot women. I want to verify your source lol
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Stroccos wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:31 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:05 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:07 am
JCB1977 wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:03 pm
FriendofHenry wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 am
JCB1977 wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:37 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:04 am
Ivan wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:04 am
coldshoulder wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:52 pm 1:31 Junior Senzarino (looks like it's in a residential garage)
4:49 Ronnie Carabbia -- Yes
5:15 Joe DeRose, Sr. (innocent victim, same still photo in Whelan's story, the original subject of this thread)
5:20 ? (not 4:20 ) Unknown ??
5:22 Joe DeRose, Jr. -- Yes
5:24 Charlie Carabbia -- Yes
5:25 John Magda -- Likely, yes, the image is blurry, but he was suffocated and duct taped and left in a garbage dump
5:27 Robert Furey -- Likely, yes, he was shot to death while outside changing a tire
5:50 maybe ? Pete Cascarelli
5:54 to 5:56 Pretty sure this is Sam Scaffidi, not at 5:50
Didn't realize 5:15 and 5:20 were the same guy, but yeah that's DeRose Sr. in both I think? Thanks for your help.
1:31 Junior Senzarino was RC's cousin that ran Ronnie's poker games. There were several and I believe Joe DeRose Jr. killed him with a shotgun.
5:15 Joe DeRose Sr. really was an innocent victum as the hit was meant for Jr. :(
I have been told that 5:50 was also a semi innocent victim, or so I was told.
After decades of investigating the Junior Senzarino murder, through DNA analysis of blood on the scene from the broken window, professional hitman Robert Dorler from Medina, Oh admitted to the murder. He died while in prison a few years later after providing the FBI with info on unsolved murders. Sam Fossesca was convicted of killing Joe DeRose Jr.

Fair enough as I always though Joe Jr. did the deed. I go back to high school with Jr. He went to Wilson and I went to Mooney.
Biggest difference was I wanted to be a golfer while he always wanted to be a gangster. Did you personally know either Junior or Joe Jr.?

https://vindyarchives.com/news/2003/jul ... ask-force/

Nope, too young. My old man knew Junior from bocce league. He knew who Joe DeRose Jr was and was close in age but never interacted with him.
DA, I never considered that you're still a youngin' ;) Believe me your Dad missed nothing with Joe Jr. However he dated a real Baby Doll :)
Now that I think about it, I do recall reading about Robert Dorter confessing. As usual, your research is spot on.
All this time I thought Joe Jr. got wacked in retribution for Junior's murder and his Dad was a mistake. At least I was right about his Dad.
Joe’s girlfriend Cheryl was the wife if one of my dad‘s closest friends from the fire department and I grew up with her son who just died of an overdose.
Seems to be allot of ods lately probably Fentanyl
Orlando carabbia Jr recently died I believe it was a OD as well
Really? I knew him but not as well as his Dad. RC Jr. made a lot of money in the fireworks business in Florida.
I've got someone who will know for sure and I'll get back to you. This Fentanyl shit got to cease. What are people thinking of :(
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FriendofHenry wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:59 pm
Stroccos wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:31 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:05 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:07 am
JCB1977 wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:03 pm
FriendofHenry wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 am
JCB1977 wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:37 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:04 am
Ivan wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:04 am
coldshoulder wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:52 pm 1:31 Junior Senzarino (looks like it's in a residential garage)
4:49 Ronnie Carabbia -- Yes
5:15 Joe DeRose, Sr. (innocent victim, same still photo in Whelan's story, the original subject of this thread)
5:20 ? (not 4:20 ) Unknown ??
5:22 Joe DeRose, Jr. -- Yes
5:24 Charlie Carabbia -- Yes
5:25 John Magda -- Likely, yes, the image is blurry, but he was suffocated and duct taped and left in a garbage dump
5:27 Robert Furey -- Likely, yes, he was shot to death while outside changing a tire
5:50 maybe ? Pete Cascarelli
5:54 to 5:56 Pretty sure this is Sam Scaffidi, not at 5:50
Didn't realize 5:15 and 5:20 were the same guy, but yeah that's DeRose Sr. in both I think? Thanks for your help.
1:31 Junior Senzarino was RC's cousin that ran Ronnie's poker games. There were several and I believe Joe DeRose Jr. killed him with a shotgun.
5:15 Joe DeRose Sr. really was an innocent victum as the hit was meant for Jr. :(
I have been told that 5:50 was also a semi innocent victim, or so I was told.
After decades of investigating the Junior Senzarino murder, through DNA analysis of blood on the scene from the broken window, professional hitman Robert Dorler from Medina, Oh admitted to the murder. He died while in prison a few years later after providing the FBI with info on unsolved murders. Sam Fossesca was convicted of killing Joe DeRose Jr.

Fair enough as I always though Joe Jr. did the deed. I go back to high school with Jr. He went to Wilson and I went to Mooney.
Biggest difference was I wanted to be a golfer while he always wanted to be a gangster. Did you personally know either Junior or Joe Jr.?

https://vindyarchives.com/news/2003/jul ... ask-force/

Nope, too young. My old man knew Junior from bocce league. He knew who Joe DeRose Jr was and was close in age but never interacted with him.
DA, I never considered that you're still a youngin' ;) Believe me your Dad missed nothing with Joe Jr. However he dated a real Baby Doll :)
Now that I think about it, I do recall reading about Robert Dorter confessing. As usual, your research is spot on.
All this time I thought Joe Jr. got wacked in retribution for Junior's murder and his Dad was a mistake. At least I was right about his Dad.
Joe’s girlfriend Cheryl was the wife if one of my dad‘s closest friends from the fire department and I grew up with her son who just died of an overdose.
Seems to be allot of ods lately probably Fentanyl
Orlando carabbia Jr recently died I believe it was a OD as well
Really? I knew him but not as well as his Dad. RC Jr. made a lot of money in the fireworks business in Florida.
I've got someone who will know for sure and I'll get back to you. This Fentanyl shit got to cease. What are people thinking of :(
Yeah he def passed , OC jr died a few months back , heard it was a OD but he was having health issues so who knows
Yeah RC was def a earner
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Stroccos wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:31 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:05 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:07 am
JCB1977 wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:03 pm
FriendofHenry wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:15 am
JCB1977 wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:37 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:04 am
Ivan wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:04 am
coldshoulder wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:52 pm 1:31 Junior Senzarino (looks like it's in a residential garage)
4:49 Ronnie Carabbia -- Yes
5:15 Joe DeRose, Sr. (innocent victim, same still photo in Whelan's story, the original subject of this thread)
5:20 ? (not 4:20 ) Unknown ??
5:22 Joe DeRose, Jr. -- Yes
5:24 Charlie Carabbia -- Yes
5:25 John Magda -- Likely, yes, the image is blurry, but he was suffocated and duct taped and left in a garbage dump
5:27 Robert Furey -- Likely, yes, he was shot to death while outside changing a tire
5:50 maybe ? Pete Cascarelli
5:54 to 5:56 Pretty sure this is Sam Scaffidi, not at 5:50
Didn't realize 5:15 and 5:20 were the same guy, but yeah that's DeRose Sr. in both I think? Thanks for your help.
1:31 Junior Senzarino was RC's cousin that ran Ronnie's poker games. There were several and I believe Joe DeRose Jr. killed him with a shotgun.
5:15 Joe DeRose Sr. really was an innocent victum as the hit was meant for Jr. :(
I have been told that 5:50 was also a semi innocent victim, or so I was told.
After decades of investigating the Junior Senzarino murder, through DNA analysis of blood on the scene from the broken window, professional hitman Robert Dorler from Medina, Oh admitted to the murder. He died while in prison a few years later after providing the FBI with info on unsolved murders. Sam Fossesca was convicted of killing Joe DeRose Jr.

Fair enough as I always though Joe Jr. did the deed. I go back to high school with Jr. He went to Wilson and I went to Mooney.
Biggest difference was I wanted to be a golfer while he always wanted to be a gangster. Did you personally know either Junior or Joe Jr.?

https://vindyarchives.com/news/2003/jul ... ask-force/

Nope, too young. My old man knew Junior from bocce league. He knew who Joe DeRose Jr was and was close in age but never interacted with him.
DA, I never considered that you're still a youngin' ;) Believe me your Dad missed nothing with Joe Jr. However he dated a real Baby Doll :)
Now that I think about it, I do recall reading about Robert Dorter confessing. As usual, your research is spot on.
All this time I thought Joe Jr. got wacked in retribution for Junior's murder and his Dad was a mistake. At least I was right about his Dad.
Joe’s girlfriend Cheryl was the wife if one of my dad‘s closest friends from the fire department and I grew up with her son who just died of an overdose.
Seems to be allot of ods lately probably Fentanyl
Orlando carabbia Jr recently died I believe it was a OD as well
He owes everybody in town money. Run a search of his name on Facebook. Orlando Carabbia Jr. you’ll see a bunch of shit
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JCB1977 wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:30 am He owes everybody in town money. Run a search of his name on Facebook. Orlando Carabbia Jr. you’ll see a bunch of shit
all right I did this and all I can find is his personal page
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Ivan wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:40 am
JCB1977 wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:30 am He owes everybody in town money. Run a search of his name on Facebook. Orlando Carabbia Jr. you’ll see a bunch of shit
all right I did this and all I can find is his personal page
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Great follow up article on Robert Dorler Jr., mafia hit man from Medina, OH and confessed to the murder of Dominic “Junior” Senzarino in 1980.

https://vindyarchives.com/news/2003/jun ... -in-court/
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"I figure I’m gonna have to do about 6000 years before I get accepted into heaven. And 6000 years is nothing in eternity terms. I can do that standing on my head. It’s like a couple of days here."

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Gnarly pics of the Johnny Magda murder I got from the Youngstown FB group.
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coldshoulder wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:52 pm 5:27 Robert Furey -- Likely, yes, he was shot to death while outside changing a tire
For whatever this is worth, someone who used to work at Youngstown United Music is telling me that Robert Furey was killed for skimming from Naples' machines (and a lot of other things) and that this hit was unrelated to the war.
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Ivan wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:54 pm
coldshoulder wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:52 pm 5:27 Robert Furey -- Likely, yes, he was shot to death while outside changing a tire
For whatever this is worth, someone who used to work at Youngstown United Music is telling me that Robert Furey was killed for skimming from Naples' machines (and a lot of other things) and that this hit was unrelated to the war.
I've heard the same story. Maybe from the same source ;)
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