Confirmation of Chicago Consiglio 1969

[PolackTony]

Interesting this shows Catuara as a capo but not Pilotto.

We know for a fact that Al Pilotto succeeded Frankie LaPorte, based on both what Frank Bompensiero reported to the FBI (Nicky Calabrese also testified that Dom Palermo succeeded Pilotto as captain).

It's still unclear exactly what the deal was with Catuara. If he was a capo, it's pretty evident that he wasn't over the LaPorte crew.

[SonnyC]

One of the neighborhood guys told me Skid had down to 31st Street, Catuara had South to 95th in the '70s. I always thought Palermo succeeded Pilotto as well, based on the fact Palermo drove Tocco to that ceremony. Palmero would have already been made by that point.

[PolackTony]

One of the neighborhood guys told me Skid had down to 31st Street, Catuara had South to 95th in the '70s. I always thought Palermo succeeded Pilotto as well, based on the fact Palermo drove Tocco to that ceremony. Palmero would have already been made by that point.

Palermo didn’t just drive Tocco there, of course. Calabrese confirmed that Palermo was in the ceremony as Tocco and Nick Guzzino’s capo and sponsor.

Hopefully a file surfaces some day that can help us confirm what Catuara’s actual status was within the organization prior to his murder. As it stands, the best account we have is probably from Red Wemette, who knew Catuara personally, used to have dinner at his house with his family, etc. When I asked Red about Catuara, he was adamant that Jimmy was a capo (his word, not one that I used when I asked him). He maintained that Catuara was a capo of his own crew that was neither the LaPorte/Pilotto crew or the Chinatown crew, as I probed him with follow-up questions. Red was obviously not a member, thus his grasp of the organization is by definition very limited. But he was adamant that Catuara was a capo of a distinct crew, and I believe Red when he claims to have known Catuara well. I personally think his claim is plausible, but we need confirmation from an actual member source to clear the confusion up.

[PolackTony]

In the 1960s, FBI files refer to mobbed-up politician Daniel
Serritella having given info to LE in the ‘40s. Here they reference Serritella mentioning Chicago having a “committee”.

[PolackTony]

1970 intel from Bompensiero. Roselli was to appear in court and had handed LaPorte a memo from a meeting that the three had with Roselli’s lawyer, where Rosselli admitted on paper to knowing Ricca, Accardo, Giancana, and “Gussie”. LaPorte appears to be telling Bomp that Chicago’s Consiglio (“Ricca, Accardo, and the Capos”) would have to decided whether they were going to put a contract on Roselli for this. Fits with earlier intel from Teddy DeRose that a Chicago member couldn’t be killed without the approval of the “council”.

[B.]

Yep, same process as the consiglio in other Families.

[PPPP]

Interesting this shows Catuara as a capo but not Pilotto.

We know for a fact that Al Pilotto succeeded Frankie LaPorte, based on both what Frank Bompensiero reported to the FBI (Nicky Calabrese also testified that Dom Palermo succeeded Pilotto as captain).

It's still unclear exactly what the deal was with Catuara. If he was a capo, it's pretty evident that he wasn't over the LaPorte crew.

Is the consensus then that it went La Porte, Pilotto, Palermo, Tocco then extinct?

[PolackTony]

Interesting this shows Catuara as a capo but not Pilotto.

We know for a fact that Al Pilotto succeeded Frankie LaPorte, based on both what Frank Bompensiero reported to the FBI (Nicky Calabrese also testified that Dom Palermo succeeded Pilotto as captain).

It's still unclear exactly what the deal was with Catuara. If he was a capo, it's pretty evident that he wasn't over the LaPorte crew.

Is the consensus then that it went La Porte, Pilotto, Palermo, Tocco then extinct?

Based on the info that we have, that’s what it looks like.

[PPPP]

Interesting this shows Catuara as a capo but not Pilotto.

We know for a fact that Al Pilotto succeeded Frankie LaPorte, based on both what Frank Bompensiero reported to the FBI (Nicky Calabrese also testified that Dom Palermo succeeded Pilotto as captain).

It's still unclear exactly what the deal was with Catuara. If he was a capo, it's pretty evident that he wasn't over the LaPorte crew.

Is the consensus then that it went La Porte, Pilotto, Palermo, Tocco then extinct?

Based on the info that we have, that’s what it looks like.

According to the Catura was a Capo truthers, where would Catura fit in? Would he be the Capo between Pilotto and Palermo?

[PPPP]

Also, PolackTony, what intersection is in your Avatar? Grand and Ogden?

For the record, I lived in Chicago for 10 years.

[PolackTony]

Interesting this shows Catuara as a capo but not Pilotto.

We know for a fact that Al Pilotto succeeded Frankie LaPorte, based on both what Frank Bompensiero reported to the FBI (Nicky Calabrese also testified that Dom Palermo succeeded Pilotto as captain).

It's still unclear exactly what the deal was with Catuara. If he was a capo, it's pretty evident that he wasn't over the LaPorte crew.

Is the consensus then that it went La Porte, Pilotto, Palermo, Tocco then extinct?

Based on the info that we have, that’s what it looks like.

According to the Catura was a Capo truthers, where would Catura fit in? Would he be the Capo between Pilotto and Palermo?

Unless Nicky C was in error when he said that Toots Palermo
succeeded Pilotto, Catuara couldn’t have been capo of the LaPorte crew. If he was a captain than he would’ve had to have been captain of a different crew.

[PolackTony]

Also, PolackTony, what intersection is in your Avatar? Grand and Ogden?

For the record, I lived in Chicago for 10 years.

Grand/Halsted/Milwaukee.

120+ years of mafia history from Giuseppe Morici to Albie Vena.

[PPPP]

Also, PolackTony, what intersection is in your Avatar? Grand and Ogden?

For the record, I lived in Chicago for 10 years.

Grand/Halsted/Milwaukee.

120+ years of mafia history from Giuseppe Morici to Albie Vena.

Gotcha. Thanks.

[Antiliar]

Interesting this shows Catuara as a capo but not Pilotto.

We know for a fact that Al Pilotto succeeded Frankie LaPorte, based on both what Frank Bompensiero reported to the FBI (Nicky Calabrese also testified that Dom Palermo succeeded Pilotto as captain).

It's still unclear exactly what the deal was with Catuara. If he was a capo, it's pretty evident that he wasn't over the LaPorte crew.

Is the consensus then that it went La Porte, Pilotto, Palermo, Tocco then extinct?

Based on the info that we have, that’s what it looks like.

According to the Catura was a Capo truthers, where would Catura fit in? Would he be the Capo between Pilotto and Palermo?

Assuming that what Red said is accurate (and he told me the same thing), then he had a previously undiscussed crew that was between Chinatown and Chicago Heights. Guido Fidanzi, Billy Dauber, and maybe Sam Annerino worked under him. Jimmy the Bomber Belcastro might have been a previous capo. Maybe we could call it the "Oak Lawn crew."

[PolackTony]

Interesting this shows Catuara as a capo but not Pilotto.

We know for a fact that Al Pilotto succeeded Frankie LaPorte, based on both what Frank Bompensiero reported to the FBI (Nicky Calabrese also testified that Dom Palermo succeeded Pilotto as captain).

It's still unclear exactly what the deal was with Catuara. If he was a capo, it's pretty evident that he wasn't over the LaPorte crew.

Is the consensus then that it went La Porte, Pilotto, Palermo, Tocco then extinct?

Based on the info that we have, that’s what it looks like.

According to the Catura was a Capo truthers, where would Catura fit in? Would he be the Capo between Pilotto and Palermo?

Assuming that what Red said is accurate (and he told me the same thing), then he had a previously undiscussed crew that was between Chinatown and Chicago Heights. Guido Fidanzi, Billy Dauber, and maybe Sam Annerino worked under him. Jimmy the Bomber Belcastro might have been a previous capo. Maybe we could call it the "Oak Lawn crew."

Personally, that’s my exact suspicion. We may never know for sure, but that’s my guess too. It could have been like the Daddono/Amato crew that seems to have only had a handful of made guys so far as we know. After Catuara and some of his guys got clipped (which Wemette says happened because Catuara was told to stand down by “the bosses” and refused, so they issued a contract on him to Lombardo), the crew was evidently disbanded and anyone remaining was assigned to another captain.