Visiting Los Angeles 1963

[Angelo Santino]

Pogo already did the work-
Subject: Los Angeles Family Circa 1963

Here is a chart I put together from the information Ed discovered in his write up of LA.

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Los Angeles Family Circa 1963


Total Membership: About 25 made members (many were old and inactive)


Administration:
Boss: Frank DeSimone
UnderBoss: Nicolo "Nick" Licata
Consigliere: Thomas “Tommy” Palermo


Capos and Crews:


1. Joseph Adamo – San Diego
-Frank "Bomp" Bompensiero (IP)
-Biaggio Bonventre
-Phillipo Damiano (Transferred from the Rockford family)
-Liborio "Leo" Dia
-Joseph LiMandri
-Marco LiMandri


2. Joseph “Joe Dip” Dippolito
-Dominic “Jimmy Regace” Brooklier
-Louis Tom “Louie” Dragna


3. Giuseppe “Joe” Giammona
-No Soldiers assigned to due to age and health


4. Angelo Polizzi
-James “Danny Wilson” Iannone
-Anthony Mangione
-Salvatore “Dago Louie” Piscopo
-Dominic “Mimi” Tripoli


Soldiers: (Unknown Crew)
John Cascio
Gaetano "Tom" Dragna
Arthur “Army” DiMaria (Las Vegas)
Thomas “Tom” Drgana (Las Vegas)
Gaspare "Jasper" Matranga (Mexico)


Former Members:
Charles “Charlie Bats” Battaglia (transferred to the Bonanno family)
-William "Willie the Rat" Cammisano (transferred from the Kansas City family and then back to the Kansas City family)
Aladena “Jimmy the Weasel” Fratianno (transferred to the Chicago Outfit)
Carlo Licata (transferred to the Detroit family)
John "Johnny" Roselli (transferred to the Chicago Outfit)


Deceased Members:
Girolamo "Momo" Adamo (1956) (Suicide)
Frank Borgia (1951) (Killed)
Salvatore “Charlie Dip” Dippolito (1960)
Jack Dragna (1956)
Calogero Finocchio (1940s)
Peter Gregorio
Victor Pepitone (San Diego)
Antonio “Tony” Mirabile (1958) (Killed)
"Phil Unstada" (ph)


Pogo

[furiofromnaples]

Fratianno was accepted in Chicago because they wasnt induct too LA family men.Frattiano flipped because he was acting boss and wanted to became boss but they tried to kill him.

[B.]

Fratianno's transfer never officially went through. What Licata told Bompensiero more or less supports Fratianno's story in his book that Roselli tried to do it on his own and it was never recognized.



Up until this point Bomp himself believed Fratianno was a Chicago member.

[B.]

Also Gaetano "Tom" Dragna was still alive.

[Pogo The Clown]

He is listed. We can subtract Jack LoCicero from the list as he wasn't made yet.


Pogo

[Pogo The Clown]

And of course all credit should go to Ed since all the info was his.


Pogo

[B.]

He is listed. We can subtract Jack LoCicero from the list as he wasn't made yet.


Pogo

Sorry, missed that.

[Antiliar]

Fratianno's transfer never officially went through. What Licata told Bompensiero more or less supports Fratianno's story in his book that Roselli tried to do it on his own and it was never recognized.

Up until this point Bomp himself believed Fratianno was a Chicago member.

In The Last Mafioso, Louis Dragna calls Fratianno and asks if Roselli arranged the transfer, but he denied it. Dragna said no one told Desimone or Licata about the transfer and didn't get their approval. Fratianno said Sam Giancana arranged it. Maybe Giancana told him he took care of it but really didn't. As far as Bomp, Roselli and Fratianno knew, the Weasel was with the Outfit.

[PolackTony]

Fratianno's transfer never officially went through. What Licata told Bompensiero more or less supports Fratianno's story in his book that Roselli tried to do it on his own and it was never recognized.

Up until this point Bomp himself believed Fratianno was a Chicago member.

In The Last Mafioso, Louis Dragna calls Fratianno and asks if Roselli arranged the transfer, but he denied it. Dragna said no one told Desimone or Licata about the transfer and didn't get their approval. Fratianno said Sam Giancana arranged it. Maybe Giancana told him he took care of it but really didn't. As far as Bomp, Roselli and Fratianno knew, the Weasel was with the Outfit.

My guess is that Giancana and Alderisio played Fratianno, as Fratianno supposedly owed a lot of money at that time to Alderisio. Alternatively, it’s possible that Giancana actually intended to transfer Fratianno to the Chicago family, but then skipped town for Mexico and Fratianno’s transfer got lost in the shuffle.

[B.]

Didn't Fratianno say there was a meeting between him, Roselli, and Giancana or was that about something else?

I think one of the big factors was Frank LaPorte losing a lot of money in Fratianno's trucking company and the venture then bringing a ton of legal heat. FBI wiretaps show Fratianno, Bomp, and LaPorte were best buddies during the early stages of the business but LaPorte later said he lost trust in Fratianno. I suspect he did agree to the transfer initially then happily washed his hands of Fratianno when he realized there was a loophole.

Bompensiero also requested permission to transfer to Chicago but it was either rejected or didn't pan out. Would have been wild if all three of them joined Chicago.

[Antiliar]

Didn't Fratianno say there was a meeting between him, Roselli, and Giancana or was that about something else?

I think one of the big factors was Frank LaPorte losing a lot of money in Fratianno's trucking company and the venture then bringing a ton of legal heat. FBI wiretaps show Fratianno, Bomp, and LaPorte were best buddies during the early stages of the business but LaPorte later said he lost trust in Fratianno. I suspect he did agree to the transfer initially then happily washed his hands of Fratianno when he realized there was a loophole.

Bompensiero also requested permission to transfer to Chicago but it was either rejected or didn't pan out. Would have been wild if all three of them joined Chicago.

There's a chapter in the book called "Jimmy's New Family." The supposed transfer took places somewhere between 1962 and 1964 (the book doesn't specify). After the phone call with Dragna, Fratianno drove from Sacramento to San Diego to meet Roselli in the Del Mar Hotel. Giancana was there and the three of them talked. Roselli reminded Sam how he praised Fratianno, then Jimmy thanks Sam from bringing him in to his brugad. After the meeting ends Roselli tells him his new assignment: kill Desi Arnaz.

So my thought on it is either Giancana played him or didn't get around to it. I don't think Fratianno owed Alderisio money until much later. It also seems that there was enough time for Giancana to have contacted Desimone, Ricca and Accardo, but maybe he didn't because Desimone would have blocked the transfer. If that's the case, then Fratianno was basically Giancana's personal errand boy. Then when he went to jail and Mexico, Fratianno was left hung out to dry.

[PolackTony]

Didn't Fratianno say there was a meeting between him, Roselli, and Giancana or was that about something else?

I think one of the big factors was Frank LaPorte losing a lot of money in Fratianno's trucking company and the venture then bringing a ton of legal heat. FBI wiretaps show Fratianno, Bomp, and LaPorte were best buddies during the early stages of the business but LaPorte later said he lost trust in Fratianno. I suspect he did agree to the transfer initially then happily washed his hands of Fratianno when he realized there was a loophole.

Bompensiero also requested permission to transfer to Chicago but it was either rejected or didn't pan out. Would have been wild if all three of them joined Chicago.

There's a chapter in the book called "Jimmy's New Family." The supposed transfer took places somewhere between 1962 and 1964 (the book doesn't specify). After the phone call with Dragna, Fratianno drove from Sacramento to San Diego to meet Roselli in the Del Mar Hotel. Giancana was there and the three of them talked. Roselli reminded Sam how he praised Fratianno, then Jimmy thanks Sam from bringing him in to his brugad. After the meeting ends Roselli tells him his new assignment: kill Desi Arnaz.

So my thought on it is either Giancana played him or didn't get around to it. I don't think Fratianno owed Alderisio money until much later. It also seems that there was enough time for Giancana to have contacted Desimone, Ricca and Accardo, but maybe he didn't because Desimone would have blocked the transfer. If that's the case, then Fratianno was basically Giancana's personal errand boy. Then when he went to jail and Mexico, Fratianno was left hung out to dry.

Thanks for the reminder on Fratianno’s account from the book. The Alderisio thing may have been later. B brought up the failed trucking company project with LaPorte, which also may have affected Chicago’s attitude to Fratianno.

[motorfab]

He is listed. We can subtract Jack LoCicero from the list as he wasn't made yet.

According to The Last Mafioso he was (page 350)

[Angelo Santino]

What about Pete Milano and Orlando Santo? There's guys on the 1979 chart not on1963, granted much can change in 16 years.

[motorfab]

What about Pete Milano and Orlando Santo? There's guys on the 1979 chart not on1963, granted much can change in 16 years.

If I'm not mistaken Peter Milano was made during the Licata era. I'm not sure who is Orlando Santo.