Did the other families know about the Genovese "front boss" system?

[AlexfromSouth]

I didn't think that the Genovese purposely "hid" the identity of the "boss" of the family, I just thought they ran their family in a way that it became confusing to those not in the know, escalating false info in who was boss or not.

It´s confusing to us because we haven´t poked our noses into it that much. Perhaps out of laziness, we chose to believe what´s on Mafiawiki and what other dubious sources say. And I´m sorry to say, but Cafaro´s testimony doesn´t help that much. In fact, it only confuses us even more. Considering our lack of overall knowledge, the Genoveses are actually not that hard to figure out. Please ask youselves...for example, who were Castellano´s captains when he took over? Not many of us could name all of them or even name half of them. You could also ask yourselves to name the Lucchese Family´s captains during the 1970s. Will we be able to name ten of them? This doesen´t mean that the Gambinos and the Luccheses were run in a special way impossible for us to figure the captains out. So our lack of overall knowledge is not only restricted to the Genovese Family who we sometime see as crime overlords, crimainal masterminds with bosses so "insulated" it´s impossible to figure them out. But they are NOT impossible to figure out. We need some extensive research on them. That´s all. Thanks to JD and his incredibly amazing research on the Colombos and the Bonannos, we now know a lot on these groups. If some similar research on the Genoveses gets launched, in a while we would know the what, when and who in regards to the Genovese Family too.

absolutely HK, just isnt researched enough.

[Hailbritain]

Did Anthony arillotta give much info when he flipped ??

[Pogo The Clown]

Ardito was the official consigliere atleast until 1977.

So Ardito was Consiglieri for most of the 70s? So Tony Salerno was never the Consiglieri during this period? Thanks.


Pogo

[willychichi]

Very festive Avatar Pogo, one of your top three all time

[Hailbritain]

Ardito was the official consigliere atleast until 1977.

So Ardito was Consiglieri for most of the 70s? So Tony Salerno was never the Consiglieri during this period? Thanks.


Pogo

I've never read that ardito was consigliere , where has this info come from ??

[Boatdrinks]

How would a secret Boss get elected?

[Ryan98366]

When, after Vito Genovese's death, the family started to use the power-behind-the-throne / front boss system, was it to trick law enforcement only or the other families too? For example, when Eboli was killed and Tieri took over, this was convenient for Gambino who was Tieri's friend, but did he know that Lombardo was the real power and had the last say, not Tieri? If I got it right, the "front bosses" did all the "duties" a boss is supposed to do, attended commission meetings etc, like for example, when Galante's murder was decided, Tieri was at the commission meeting, not Lombardo, although Lombardo surely knew. But did the other bosses know how the situation really was?

Terrific question. I believe that the other families knew of these games the Genovese family was playing. They all knew how cagey and secretive they are. However, my guess is none of the other families knew who was really “the boss.”

[dave]

Gravano touched on this in one of his videos.

2:55-3:35 and 11:10-12:50

https://youtu.be/X8LTtoywf4Y

[CabriniGreen]

When, after Vito Genovese's death, the family started to use the power-behind-the-throne / front boss system, was it to trick law enforcement only or the other families too? For example, when Eboli was killed and Tieri took over, this was convenient for Gambino who was Tieri's friend, but did he know that Lombardo was the real power and had the last say, not Tieri? If I got it right, the "front bosses" did all the "duties" a boss is supposed to do, attended commission meetings etc, like for example, when Galante's murder was decided, Tieri was at the commission meeting, not Lombardo, although Lombardo surely knew. But did the other bosses know how the situation really was?

Terrific question. I believe that the other families knew of these games the Genovese family was playing. They all knew how cagey and secretive they are. However, my guess is none of the other families knew who was really “the boss.”

They knew. It was in Time Magazine in 1969... Lombardo as a boss candidate. I don't know where this " it was a big secret" stuff really comes from....

[CabriniGreen]

When, after Vito Genovese's death, the family started to use the power-behind-the-throne / front boss system, was it to trick law enforcement only or the other families too? For example, when Eboli was killed and Tieri took over, this was convenient for Gambino who was Tieri's friend, but did he know that Lombardo was the real power and had the last say, not Tieri? If I got it right, the "front bosses" did all the "duties" a boss is supposed to do, attended commission meetings etc, like for example, when Galante's murder was decided, Tieri was at the commission meeting, not Lombardo, although Lombardo surely knew. But did the other bosses know how the situation really was?

Terrific question. I believe that the other families knew of these games the Genovese family was playing. They all knew how cagey and secretive they are. However, my guess is none of the other families knew who was really “the boss.”

They knew. It was in Time Magazine in 1969... Lombardo as a boss candidate. I don't know where this " it was a big secret" stuff really comes from....

Sorry...Life Magazine. I always get em mixed up...

[CabriniGreen]

When, after Vito Genovese's death, the family started to use the power-behind-the-throne / front boss system, was it to trick law enforcement only or the other families too? For example, when Eboli was killed and Tieri took over, this was convenient for Gambino who was Tieri's friend, but did he know that Lombardo was the real power and had the last say, not Tieri? If I got it right, the "front bosses" did all the "duties" a boss is supposed to do, attended commission meetings etc, like for example, when Galante's murder was decided, Tieri was at the commission meeting, not Lombardo, although Lombardo surely knew. But did the other bosses know how the situation really was?

Terrific question. I believe that the other families knew of these games the Genovese family was playing. They all knew how cagey and secretive they are. However, my guess is none of the other families knew who was really “the boss.”

They knew. It was in Time Magazine in 1969... Lombardo as a boss candidate. I don't know where this " it was a big secret" stuff really comes from....

Sorry...Life Magazine. I always get em mixed up...

https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go ... Bf%3Dfalse

[CabriniGreen]

When, after Vito Genovese's death, the family started to use the power-behind-the-throne / front boss system, was it to trick law enforcement only or the other families too? For example, when Eboli was killed and Tieri took over, this was convenient for Gambino who was Tieri's friend, but did he know that Lombardo was the real power and had the last say, not Tieri? If I got it right, the "front bosses" did all the "duties" a boss is supposed to do, attended commission meetings etc, like for example, when Galante's murder was decided, Tieri was at the commission meeting, not Lombardo, although Lombardo surely knew. But did the other bosses know how the situation really was?

Terrific question. I believe that the other families knew of these games the Genovese family was playing. They all knew how cagey and secretive they are. However, my guess is none of the other families knew who was really “the boss.”

They knew. It was in Time Magazine in 1969... Lombardo as a boss candidate. I don't know where this " it was a big secret" stuff really comes from....

Sorry...Life Magazine. I always get em mixed up...

https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go ... Bf%3Dfalse

I mean.... if you could read about it in a Magazine you buy off a newsstand, how secret could it have been? Really?