Frank Coppa JR

[CornerBoy]

Hi Guys, hope you having great weekend, what did Coppa Jr end of doing after his dad flipped?? Thanks

[newera_212]

I don't know the exact timeline and my memory on things I read here is pretty spotty, but I think I remember something like ... well after Coppa Sr. flipped and Massino was gone, Coppa Jr. was transferred to Vincent Basciano's crew - which at that time grew to pretty crazy proportions for a while. He seemed to absorb a lot of random guys from all over the place. I also feel like I read something where either Basciano or Cicale floated the idea of killing Coppa Jr. too

Not sure about today but I always heard Coppa Jr. owned/ran parking garages in Manhattan. There were still Coppas living out in Manalapan but that was a while ago - if someone said they all moved out of the NYC area I wouldn't be shocked.

Is Frank Coppa Sr. still alive?

[CornerBoy]

Thanks newera- is he still alive? not a clue.

He was big in pump n dump

Someone said or I read there is a book out there about Hanover Sterling w Catoggio and even Rico and Dom in it? Did they use real names or is it a bullshit book that didn't give names or real details. b/c there is some interesting shit if one knew the right ppl. RB worked there and kept his money isteaed of pissing it away at the insistence of his siggy father and is now LOADED from real estate in my current neighborhood. So is this book real or just shit thta has been in newspapers? sorry to change gears

[CornerBoy]

Thanks newera- is he still alive? not a clue.

He was big in pump n dump

Someone said or I read there is a book out there about Hanover Sterling w Catoggio and even Rico and Dom in it? Did they use real names or is it a bullshit book that didn't give names or real details. b/c there is some interesting shit if one knew the right ppl. RB worked there and kept his money isteaed of pissing it away at the insistence of his siggy father and is now LOADED from real estate in my current neighborhood. So is this book real or just shit thta has been in newspapers? sorry to change gears b/c id like to know about coppa jr. just to be clear, never was involved w any of that pmp and dump shit in any way. they knew nothing about what they were doing. I always did my own thing and thank god sports took me out of the neighborhood

[aray22]

Coppa Jr has a LinkedIn, wonder how involved he is these days.

[newera_212]

Thanks newera- is he still alive? not a clue.

He was big in pump n dump

Someone said or I read there is a book out there about Hanover Sterling w Catoggio and even Rico and Dom in it? Did they use real names or is it a bullshit book that didn't give names or real details. b/c there is some interesting shit if one knew the right ppl. RB worked there and kept his money isteaed of pissing it away at the insistence of his siggy father and is now LOADED from real estate in my current neighborhood. So is this book real or just shit thta has been in newspapers? sorry to change gears

The book is called Born to Steal and it is written by an old Businessweek reporter who kind of was reporting (even though no one wanted to hear it because the market was doing so well) about a lot of chicanery in finance, and stock scams in the late 90s into the early 2000s - from the boiler room to the dot com era. He was one of just a few who had an idea of what was going on in the boiler rooms in NY and was trying to sound the alarm a little bit.

The book is kind of like a biography on some random stock broker who worked at Hanover and about a dozen of other places over the span of 6 or 7 years from what I remember. As far as names go, the book mentions real names in every instance (and it mentions a ton of names) except for the main stockbroker's ex wife, and ex father in law. I'd say it's worth a read, it's kind of interesting.

All that boiler room stuff was a little before my time. I was pretty young. The ones who got away had moved onto Mortgages by the time I was "of age" - even if I was born 15 years earlier there's no way in hell my parents would be okay with me working in a boiler room, no matter how much I was pulling down. I would have gotten my ass beat and thrown out. A lot of those kids working in those places came from not so great situations, or had 1st or 2nd gen American parents who were kind of rubes and were too busy with surviving to ask questions.

Some people got completely hammered. I think the Hanover guy is still in prison. They haven't been operating for like 25 or 26 years. What's crazy is that some people got away and are still working as rip off artists. Stocks over the phone -> mortgages over the phone -> MCA loans over the phone. It's really nuts. A lot of those people are pieces of shit frankly. The person you mentioned by initials is pretty successful and supposedly philanthropic and forward thinking today... I have no idea how he was able to hold on to any of his money. He wouldn't be the first person in America to make a ton of money by fucking people over, and then trying to buy back good karma later in life though - but to me all those guys are scumbags

[CornerBoy]

his dad is an old school sicilian contractor who made him save ALL his money. he lives within 100-1,000 yards away from me in 10 mil plus penthouse that has the full floor and looks out over the Hudson. He built the fucking bldg!!!!! his brother is funny guy. There is a certain chain steakhouse that is near us and used to bump into the family there. really nice ppl.

[CornerBoy]

his dad is an old school sicilian contractor who made him save ALL his money. he lives within 100-1,000 yards away from me in 10 mil plus penthouse that has the full floor and looks out over the Hudson. He built the fucking bldg!!!!! his brother is funny guy. There is a certain chain steakhouse that is near us and used to bump into the family there. really nice ppl.

[newera_212]

his dad is an old school sicilian contractor who made him save ALL his money. he lives within 100-1,000 yards away from me in 10 mil plus penthouse that has the full floor and looks out over the Hudson. He built the fucking bldg!!!!! his brother is funny guy. There is a certain chain steakhouse that is near us and used to bump into the family there. really nice ppl.

I'm familiar with the building- they haven't done a lot of stuff but everything his company has developed is pretty cool. They were pretty forward thinking when it came to not cutting corners, design, sustainability, energy, all that - and not in the typical "we'll do it for the tax abatement" thing that most developers do. I was under the impression he had to forfeit assets and pay a lot of restitution, I wonder if any of that really happened.

[Rocco]

I don't know the exact timeline and my memory on things I read here is pretty spotty, but I think I remember something like ... well after Coppa Sr. flipped and Massino was gone, Coppa Jr. was transferred to Vincent Basciano's crew - which at that time grew to pretty crazy proportions for a while. He seemed to absorb a lot of random guys from all over the place. I also feel like I read something where either Basciano or Cicale floated the idea of killing Coppa Jr. too

Not sure about today but I always heard Coppa Jr. owned/ran parking garages in Manhattan. There were still Coppas living out in Manalapan but that was a while ago - if someone said they all moved out of the NYC area I wouldn't be shocked.

Is Frank Coppa Sr. still alive?

Coppa Sr ended up staying in NJ. Never left since most of the family was sent to prison or flipped. Louie Ha Ha is out living in a townhome in Woodbridge NJ area and I think he has a waterfront Townhome on Toms River down by the courthouse. Not sure if he is still active. Hes up there in age.

[newera_212]

I don't know the exact timeline and my memory on things I read here is pretty spotty, but I think I remember something like ... well after Coppa Sr. flipped and Massino was gone, Coppa Jr. was transferred to Vincent Basciano's crew - which at that time grew to pretty crazy proportions for a while. He seemed to absorb a lot of random guys from all over the place. I also feel like I read something where either Basciano or Cicale floated the idea of killing Coppa Jr. too

Not sure about today but I always heard Coppa Jr. owned/ran parking garages in Manhattan. There were still Coppas living out in Manalapan but that was a while ago - if someone said they all moved out of the NYC area I wouldn't be shocked.

Is Frank Coppa Sr. still alive?

Coppa Sr ended up staying in NJ. Never left since most of the family was sent to prison or flipped. Louie Ha Ha is out living in a townhome in Woodbridge NJ area and I think he has a waterfront Townhome on Toms River down by the courthouse. Not sure if he is still active. Hes up there in age.

Do you know if Coppa Sr. is still alive by any chance? I did a quick google and didn't find anything - figured we'd hear about it here if it happened. But if he's still alive I'd be surprised. Jersey's sea level probably lowered a little bit when he moved from New York. He'd be in his early 80s today...after carrying that weight his whole life. Doesn't seem probable.

[JeremyTheJew]

I thought coppa did one of the podcast interviews? The one where he was like “oh did u talk to Massino??” I also thought his son was with him while he did the interview…. Does anyone know who I’m talking about

[Tonyd621]

I thought coppa did one of the podcast interviews? The one where he was like “oh did u talk to Massino??” I also thought his son was with him while he did the interview…. Does anyone know who I’m talking about

Yea that was Richard Cantarella the informants who live in Arizona

[Mason_dixon]

I don't know the exact timeline and my memory on things I read here is pretty spotty, but I think I remember something like ... well after Coppa Sr. flipped and Massino was gone, Coppa Jr. was transferred to Vincent Basciano's crew - which at that time grew to pretty crazy proportions for a while. He seemed to absorb a lot of random guys from all over the place. I also feel like I read something where either Basciano or Cicale floated the idea of killing Coppa Jr. too

Not sure about today but I always heard Coppa Jr. owned/ran parking garages in Manhattan. There were still Coppas living out in Manalapan but that was a while ago - if someone said they all moved out of the NYC area I wouldn't be shocked.

Is Frank Coppa Sr. still alive?

Coppa Sr ended up staying in NJ. Never left since most of the family was sent to prison or flipped. Louie Ha Ha is out living in a townhome in Woodbridge NJ area and I think he has a waterfront Townhome on Toms River down by the courthouse. Not sure if he is still active. Hes up there in age.

Do you know if Coppa Sr. is still alive by any chance? I did a quick google and didn't find anything - figured we'd hear about it here if it happened. But if he's still alive I'd be surprised. Jersey's sea level probably lowered a little bit when he moved from New York. He'd be in his early 80s today...after carrying that weight his whole life. Doesn't seem probable.

You are probably correct that he's dead but I remember reading maybe in the vinny gorgeous book that he gained all that weight when he went to the clink the first time. Before he was in real decent shape I remember reading some ppl say he smoked crack. I also read that jr just kept on doing his thing and his father's sin was forgiven. Not sure if that's up to date.

[JeremyTheJew]

Ohhhh yes cantorella

Forgot bout him