Scarfo Jr. as a Lucchese member

[stubbs]

Scarfo was a previously convited felon and this case was a 25-count federal rico case. Seriously, just read through the list of charges in the original indictment.

Even the lawyers involved got hammered: One got 20 years and the other got 10.

With his last name, to be as flashy as he was buying Bentleys and yachts, he was just begging the feds to bring the hammer down. You gotta be lowkey like the Westside, this isn’t the 80s.

[HoagieNose]

Wow that’s crazy. Scarfo jr seemed like a shitty criminal.

[Extortion]

Didn't he get 'sent' up North and integrated himself with Philly's North Jersey/Newark crew first, and basically got acclimated to the North Jersey scene before transferring to or getting made with the Luccheses? IIRC he was involved in Bookmaking up there, because it was during some bust a long time ago where they said Scarfo Jr. was using PGP encryption on Bookmaking records - which is pretty awesome

That is quite common with sensitive files, a lot of lawyers use encryption on sensitive docs, he probably learned this being around them or just being possible somewhat tech savvy. Which I think is pretty cool and respectable for a mob guy. Most of them don’t know how to save a word document.

[outfit guy]

Really? Shitty Criminal? I read one of the few money-makers. He's doing too much time - like most prisoners - for the crime, but at least he made real money.

[Rocco]

Really? Shitty Criminal? I read one of the few money-makers. He's doing too much time - like most prisoners - for the crime, but at least he made real money.

Actually if Scarfo Jr was smart he would have known Financial fraud crimes draw very heavy sentences now. Had he committed this crime in the late 90s he would have gotten 3-5yrs. These crimes draw heavy sentences even if you are not LCN. There is a long documented history of heavy sentences after the Enron and WorldCom debackle

[Rocco]

I don’t get how Scarfo and his cousin Sal got 30 years. That seems excessive even with priors. The Philly guys lawyers would have never let that happen.

I suggest you do some research on Financial Corp Fraud sentences post Enron and WorldCom. These crimes draw heavy sentences then throw in LCN affiliation. Scarfo should have known he would have gotten a min of 20yrs for this. The stock fraud cases in the 90s sentences were very light. Mob made a killing off of pump and dump schemes and the sentences were pretty light. But after WorldCom and Enron the fed gov increased these sentences quite a bit.

[jmack]

Scarfo is a bit of an enigma. As far as I know he’s never been involved in any murders, but he’s a serious money maker. Money makers who aren’t sociopaths don’t always stand up to a 30 year sentience. Say what you want about him being smart or not, but he’s definitely cosa nostra.

[NJShore4Life]

Scarfo is a bit of an enigma. As far as I know he’s never been involved in any murders, but he’s a serious money maker. Money makers who aren’t sociopaths don’t always stand up to a 30 year sentience. Say what you want about him being smart or not, but he’s definitely cosa nostra.

Nicky Jr was a very smart and intelligent guy from what I have heard from people that knew him personally. He is also a stand up guy , he gets shot by Skinny Joey and still stays in the life and doesn’t run. Then he takes a 30 year sentence on the chin without a peep with a wife and young children at home. He’s a stand up guy, that’s not even up for debate.

-Dante

[Tonyd621]

Taking control of a publicly traded company is impressive imo. I mean usually the suits will run to the SEC or FBI right away. I bet they were already doing something they shouldn't of been to allow Scarfo and his crew to take it over.

[Rocco]

Scarfo is a bit of an enigma. As far as I know he’s never been involved in any murders, but he’s a serious money maker. Money makers who aren’t sociopaths don’t always stand up to a 30 year sentience. Say what you want about him being smart or not, but he’s definitely cosa nostra.

I wouldn't say that. Allot todays generation of made guys are not or have not been involved in murder...mostly because the majority of murders today lead to convictions and informants. There are not many unsolved mob hits these days. You got Frank Lagano unsolved which may or may not be tied to a DA. Larry Ricci murderer was never charged although the feds are almost certain it was Coppola and his Step son based on wiretaps. Look at the Meldish murder.. the street boss and underboss was convicted and the shooter didn't even flip. Nicodemo was busted for murder 1hr after the hit took place. See my point? Anyways Scarfo jr could have flipped at any point in his career and he hasn't. He could still cooperate to get time shaved off now that his old man is dead. And that hasn't happened either.Was he smart to get involved in Financial Fraud when heavy sentences are handed down...no. BUt hes not dumb

[Mikeymike12]

same ceromony as madonna who had to wait to get made because drugs. surposely vic was telling steve crea to get it down he did

Crea makings him and then a Few years later Madonna is acting boss over him. Crea seems like he listens to everything Vic says and does it without issue. (Just like when the acting hierarchy switched few years back.) If Vic wasn’t in the picture in the last ten years who would of filled that role? Crea?

[Mikeymike12]

Scarfo Jr did put alot of money in lucchese family pockets . He was making Big money.

[HoagieNose]

Scarfo Jr did put alot of money in lucchese family pockets . He was making Big money.

But they demoted him. I don’t think he was all around respected.

[HoagieNose]

Scarfo is a bit of an enigma. As far as I know he’s never been involved in any murders, but he’s a serious money maker. Money makers who aren’t sociopaths don’t always stand up to a 30 year sentience. Say what you want about him being smart or not, but he’s definitely cosa nostra.

Nicky Jr was a very smart and intelligent guy from what I have heard from people that knew him personally. He is also a stand up guy , he gets shot by Skinny Joey and still stays in the life and doesn’t run. Then he takes a 30 year sentence on the chin without a peep with a wife and young children at home. He’s a stand up guy, that’s not even up for debate.

-Dante

So was that rumor about Scarfo jr. Trying to take over Philly just nonsense ? If he was mostly an earner type guy it doesn’t make for him to want to violently take over Philly.

[Pmac2]

wheres scarfo jr locked up at? white collar should be at a camp even if hes doing 20+