Let's talk about those Phillies

[Pogo The Clown]

Caponigro didn't like Bruno letting NY in on AC. He also didn't like how Bruno didn't forbade his family getting involved with drugs but allowed the Gsmbinos to deal on their territory.


Pogo

[Wiseguy]

Caponigro didn't like Bruno letting NY in on AC. He also didn't like how Bruno didn't forbade his family getting involved with drugs but allowed the Gsmbinos to deal on their territory.


Pogo

That's what Freselone said. Everyone thought at the time that Bruno was killed by the NY families for keeping them out of Atlantic City. Freselone explained it was the exact opposite - he was killed (by one of his own) for letting them in. Not that he could have really stopped them anyway.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Coincidentally Dave Portnoy reviewed Martorano's nephew's place today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kP7LujnBKU

He tried the Sicilian slice... the Martoranos come from Belmonte Mezzagno like the Scafidis, etc. etc.

Jeezus. An 8.8 for Sicilian style.

[stubbs]

Caponigro didn't like Bruno letting NY in on AC. He also didn't like how Bruno didn't forbade his family getting involved with drugs but allowed the Gsmbinos to deal on their territory.


Pogo

That's what Freselone said. Everyone thought at the time that Bruno was killed by the NY families for keeping them out of Atlantic City. Freselone explained it was the exact opposite - he was killed (by one of his own) for letting them in. Not that he could have really stopped them anyway.

I stand corrected, good info fellas!

[SonnyBlackstein]

Giradi just got fired.

[Uforeality]

Giradi just got fired.

Losses in 12 of the last 17.

Giradi got shelved

[jmack]

Giradi just got fired.

Losses in 12 of the last 17.

Giradi got shelved

they shoulda whacked him

[Uforeality]

Giradi just got fired.

Losses in 12 of the last 17.

Giradi got shelved

they shoulda whacked him

I'm trying to bbq here at the house and not laugh out loud like a message board geek. I think my jig is up.

[Philly d]

I forget where I read it but Bruno was the height of the organization was around 270 associates which is significantly more than what it is today

The 250-270 associate number was under Scarfo in the 1980s. It was undoubtedly higher than that under Bruno in the 1960s.

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I forget where I read it but Bruno was the height of the organization was around 270 associates which is significantly more than what it is today

Was also reading rereading mafia prince and some of Anastasia’s old articles and damn did Scarfo ruin everything. Killed 13 made guys when the family never had more than 60 when he was around. If I remember correctly the total figure of guys murdered was around 40 people on top of the fed pressure and indictments fucking crazy.

It’s a miracle this organization still exists even in its declined state

He didn’t come close to killing 13 made guys. He clipped Mickey DeVito, Pat Spirito, Chickie Narducci, and Sal Testa; that’s it.

I like GA but the dude gives each boss a narrative for whatever book he’s writing. He makes Scarfo out to be a cartoon character.

13 is probsbly the total he ordered killed during his time as Boss. From a list Wiseguy put together.


Hit's unders Scarfo during his time as Boss. Note that not all of these were ordered by Scarfo. Some were unsanctioned hits by rivals or sneak jobs.



9. Harry Peetros (May 26, 1981) - member of Greek mob and LCN associate; murdered
10. Chelsais Bouras (May 27, 1981) - boss of Greek mob; murdered
11. Jannette Curro (May 27, 1981) - Bouras' girlfriend?; murdered
12. Frank "Frankie Flowers" D'Alfonso (1981) - assoicate; wounded
13. Frank "Frankie Stale" Stillitano (1981) - Gambino associate; murdered
14. John Calabrese (October 6, 1981) - associate; murdered
15. Vincent "Tippy" Paneta (January 4, 1982) - associate; murdered
16. Michelle A. Podraza (January 4, 1982) - Paneta's girlfriend; murdered
17. Frank "Chickie" Narducci (January 17, 1982) - captain; murdered
18. Dominick "Mickey Diamond'' DeVito (February 24, 1982) - associate; murdered
19. Rocco Marinucci (March 14, 1982) - associate; murdered
20. Frank Monte (May 13, 1982) - consigliere; murdered
21. Harry "The Hunchback" Riccobene (June 8, 1982) - soldier; wounded
22. Salvatore "Salvie" Testa (July 31, 1982) - captain; wounded
23. Harry "The Hunchback" Riccbone (August 21, 1982) - soldier, wounded again
24. Michael "Mickey Diamond" DeVito (1982) - soldier; murdered
25. Robert Hornikel (January 27, 1983) - associate; murdered
26. Pat "Pat the Cat" Spirito (April 29, 1983) - soldier; murdered
27. Frank Martines (October 14, 1983) - associate; wounded
28. Salvatore "Sammy" Tamburrino (November 3, 1983) - associate/soldier; murdered
29. Robert Riccobene (December 6, 1983) - soldier; murdered
30. Salvatore "Salvie" Testa (December 10, 1983) - captain; wounded
31. Enrico Riccobene (December 14, 1983) - associate; suicide
32. Salvatore "Salvie" Testa (September 14, 1984) - captain; murdered
33. Michael Micali (September 18, 1984) - associate; murdered
34. Frank "J.R" Forlini (February 7, 1985) - associate; murdered
35. Frank "Frankie Flowers" D'Alfonso (July 23, 1985) - associate; murdered
36. Steven "Steaks" Vento (May 27, 1986) - associate; wounded
37. Nicodemo "Nicky" Scarfo Jr. (October 31, 1989) - soldier; wounded
38. Louis "Louie Irish" DeLuca (May 24, 1990) - associate; murdered
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Why are there doubles?

[Teflon Dom]

I seen dom grande in lowes last year, It’s pretty comical anyone fears this guy. He’s like 5 foot and wears dress shoes with high shorts. I mean sure, he may use a gun or whatever but it’s pretty ridiculous anyone would listen to this guy.

Did you go up to him and say that? Or did you just put your head down and come on the internet to type it in a anonymous setting?

[B.]

What's crazy about Grande is in one of the Anastasia books it talks about Scarfo holding court at his confirmation party when he was a kid. All of the major players were there showing their respect to Scarfo.

[scott22]

Louie Irish was Mikey Chang & Joey's crew. That didn't come from Nicky. Stevie Mazzone was mentored by Louie. That hit went down right after Ralph got into Joey's ear.

Scott

[Ravens410]

I seen dom grande in lowes last year, It’s pretty comical anyone fears this guy. He’s like 5 foot and wears dress shoes with high shorts. I mean sure, he may use a gun or whatever but it’s pretty ridiculous anyone would listen to this guy.

Did you go up to him and say that? Or did you just put your head down and come on the internet to type it in a anonymous setting?

No, he went up to him and asked him if he knew there was a user on mob forum named ‘Teflon Dom’. Hilarity ensued

[Teflon Dom]

I seen dom grande in lowes last year, It’s pretty comical anyone fears this guy. He’s like 5 foot and wears dress shoes with high shorts. I mean sure, he may use a gun or whatever but it’s pretty ridiculous anyone would listen to this guy.

Did you go up to him and say that? Or did you just put your head down and come on the internet to type it in a anonymous setting?

No, he went up to him and asked him if he knew there was a user on mob forum named ‘Teflon Dom’. Hilarity ensued

Sorry I couldn’t be as creative as an area code and a football team, my bad bro

[Stopflexing]

I know this hit came later but why was Felix Bocchino killed?