2 Genovese Members and Albanian Associate Charged with Extortion

[B.]

Looks like you're picking a pointless fight just to antagonize Wiseguy. There will be plenty of opportunity to argue in the future, no need to force it in this thread.

[Newyorkempire]

Looks like you're picking a pointless fight just to antagonize Wiseguy. There will be plenty of opportunity to argue in the future, no need to force it in this thread.

Fair

[B.]

Good man.

I'm really curious about all this, two new Genovese busts with previously unknown members. Wonder what else is underway.

[Newyorkempire]

This last 5-8 years seems like a mini renaissance of sorts.

[nizarsoccer]

Third time's the charm. Let's get Barney next week.

[Wiseguy]

This really shouldn't need to be explained at this point but it's misleading to refer to a member as "unknown" because they weren't on the forum charts. Unknown to us, yes. Obviously not unknown to law enforcement.

If there are currently about 140 or so names on Pogo's Genovese chart, and recent official estimates have the family at 150-175 members, obviously we don't have every last name on there. Doesn't mean the feds aren't aware of most of them.

It's also important to remember that this is the largest and most secretive family and so you can't automatically look at the West Side and say, "If they have a couple dozen unknown guys, then maybe X family does too." That doesn't work.

Why doesnt that work? Again, this is your opinion. Trends prove it is possible. The Mafia is secretive in the first place, the organization in which all families reside. Cherry-picking that it only happens with the Genovese is just that, cherry-picking, hanging on to your opinions in hopes they at some point turn to facts. Again, you want it both ways.

If someone else needs me to explain this to them, I'll be happy to. Though I think, to most, it's pretty obvious. But to keep engaging with the forum's biggest troll (now that Solar is gone, that's you) is just a waste of time and disrails threads. And even if I tried once again, repeated experience has shown you wouldn't understand what is being said. You're not just a troll. You're slow. Painfully slow.

[Newyorkempire]

This really shouldn't need to be explained at this point but it's misleading to refer to a member as "unknown" because they weren't on the forum charts. Unknown to us, yes. Obviously not unknown to law enforcement.

If there are currently about 140 or so names on Pogo's Genovese chart, and recent official estimates have the family at 150-175 members, obviously we don't have every last name on there. Doesn't mean the feds aren't aware of most of them.

It's also important to remember that this is the largest and most secretive family and so you can't automatically look at the West Side and say, "If they have a couple dozen unknown guys, then maybe X family does too." That doesn't work.

Why doesnt that work? Again, this is your opinion. Trends prove it is possible. The Mafia is secretive in the first place, the organization in which all families reside. Cherry-picking that it only happens with the Genovese is just that, cherry-picking, hanging on to your opinions in hopes they at some point turn to facts. Again, you want it both ways.

If someone else needs me to explain this to them, I'll be happy to. Though I think, to most, it's pretty obvious. But to keep engaging with the forum's biggest troll (now that Solar is gone, that's you) is just a waste of time and disrails threads. And even if I tried once again, repeated experience has shown you wouldn't understand what is being said. You're not just a troll. You're slow. Painfully slow.

Totally agree, huge troll. Your credentials are hard to get around, im caught again. Thank you for enlightening me, officially liberated. Its not "disrails", its derails. Stay focused "Wise" one

[Teflon Dom]

Someone's name not being public until an indictment doesn't make them a sleeper.

A sleeper to me is someone who even other members might not be aware of, i.e. the guy who works every day and doesn't preen around like a gangster.

That person would be considered a sleeper to all of us on the forum though?

[Dave65827]

Off topic but the “comedian” is not funny and talks like a racist caricature of Albanians

[Geeleonetti]

You would think Barney could walk away and step down/aside and live out some years with legitimate income and millions. To me, some of these guys just wanna get caught, just doesn’t make sense to me. All of his friends/associates are gone.

[Buster123]

I wonder if Joseph Celso is related to Genovese associate, Frank Celso who was snagged in that 2016 indictment with Steven Pastore & Robert DeBello.

There brothers

[Amershire_Ed]

You would think Barney could walk away and step down/aside and live out some years with legitimate income and millions. To me, some of these guys just wanna get caught, just doesn’t make sense to me. All of his friends/associates are gone.

Pretty sure that’s what’s Barney’s doing. Seems like the chances of an indictment ever landing on his doorstep at this point is *extremely* slim to none.

[CornerBoy]

googled albanian and he's a real estate agent in Plainview Long Island and his specialty is "high-end rentals"

[Pmac2]

Getting punched in the face by a 80yr old lol. These guys don't give a fuck if they have millions this is there life. Peter Limon boston boss does 30yrs in prison framed by the fridge they give him 30million dollars he still except the role of mafia boss. Barney b is a millionaire does 10yrs still takes the role as boss. He'll die the boss. The romanello guy is bet he's loaded still will punch you in the face for a rack or 2

[CornerBoy]

pmac2- who knows how much hae made as he was always under tony parkside from spghetti park. I think he was basically a knock around guy until a certain pt in his life when he really started earning. maybe 20 years? less? no idea