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Newyorkempire wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:31 pm
Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:13 pm @Newyorkempire To clarify, there were some posts above where I wasn't replying to you. It's difficult to tell due to multiple quoted posters, but my responses were entirely directed to another poster. If you didn't know that, and you probably did, you know know it. I'm not a talented message board poster.

Farese is what I would consider one the last major indictments due to dollar size. You have Mix, Truglia, Gatto, and the two "reported from New Jersey, but those two own Florida houses. I'll err to the side of caution, and say 3 of 5 major players are from Florida. There are others involved, and I'm not going to take the time (right now) to post the rest.

The Colombo indictment is cloudier, but out of 14, and there are more, one is reported to be living in Florida. But at least 7 more have Florida homes (and I can document that if necessary later), and operated out of Florida. I'll post more as it becomes necessary.

Little reported, but obvious connections, if only previously, the latest Mamone thing is entirely Florida. Conservatively Mamone and his kids. This indictment is interesting to debate given the history. For those that was a substantive discussion, and not some "I know more than you" useless argument. I'd add my personal insight on tis one on how tings have changed, call it a diminished LCN exposure if you will, but obviously couldn't be proven to some poster's satisfaction. Notwithstanding the fact I'm asked to believe their posts with no documentation, no link, no anything except apparently the tracking of indictments from newspaper articles.

Lastly the Genovese indictment, one from Florida, three from Connecticut and one from NY proper. I'm not even going to the fact that two had (and presumably also operated) out of Palm Beach County. Yet.

I'm counting 12 out of 24 related to Florida, some fairly significantly related to Florida. If I peel away those with loose Florida connections, it's still over 20%. And I did this quickly off the top of my head, so I'm missing names, etc. But I'm not going to do any additional work until I have to. I suspect the responses (the argumentative ones) won't require me to do any additional work in any event.
Forgot about the Mamone one. That makes four recent indictments. Albeit he is a rat, he was/is made.

There is others in Tampa that are operating right now under the idea they are mob I am aware of. Younger crew associates from the last made guys from Trafficante/active Loscalzo era, possible but not probable they are made in my opinion. But I wanted to see if you would drop a name first. Havent heard of "Frankie" unless its simply Albano.
Nope, you’re not going to drop names, and neither am I. We’re alike in this area. To be clear, I don’t know any of the younger Tampa guys unless they are the younger pompano guys, and I have dropped some names there. I edited some of that out though. If they are the same, we either know if, or know the same people. If so, you can figure out who I am probably. Something I need to be more aware of.

I’ve been trying to locate a recent photo of Albano to either confirm or dismiss him as the Frank or Frankie. I’ve not had any success.

I’m active on a Discord. Less clutter to get though, more real world info. Do I recognize you from there?

I have another “mystery” I’m trying to figure out with some Lucchese connections to a quiet Midwestern state that doesn’t have Chicago located in it. Quite a while ago, the 80’s. Maybe you can help me out on that?

Also, I wouldn’t mind discussing entire Mamone thing. That’s an interesting topic to me as he lived four blocks from Mix. It’s the new normal. They guys making the money, and it’s almost exclusively a very pronounced “pyramid scheme”, want no attention, to the point they know exactly where Mamone is, and others, and no retribution is sought.

Back to Tampa, possibly Pompano, made or not made isn’t as important presently. What we used to say was I don’t need any help going to prison, I can go there on my own. If you’re going to do something, do it alone. Never take the short money. Some other talking on circle ways of making a point that is understood by some, but not others.

Thanks for your response.
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In Johnny 1and1's defense, the fact that Nicky Slash Calisi was in Florida (supposedly not vacationing at Disney) and was all but unknown on this board, despite some knowing he was a made guy, kind of shows that guys can operate below the radar in Florida. So we don't know what we don't know essentially.
Granted, nothing like in the 90's or 2000's, but there is still a viable presence apparently.
While I don't have any pics of him, I can tell you he always reminded me of a young Robert Mitchum. :lol:
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Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:35 pm
Newyorkempire wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:31 pm
Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:13 pm @Newyorkempire To clarify, there were some posts above where I wasn't replying to you. It's difficult to tell due to multiple quoted posters, but my responses were entirely directed to another poster. If you didn't know that, and you probably did, you know know it. I'm not a talented message board poster.

Farese is what I would consider one the last major indictments due to dollar size. You have Mix, Truglia, Gatto, and the two "reported from New Jersey, but those two own Florida houses. I'll err to the side of caution, and say 3 of 5 major players are from Florida. There are others involved, and I'm not going to take the time (right now) to post the rest.

The Colombo indictment is cloudier, but out of 14, and there are more, one is reported to be living in Florida. But at least 7 more have Florida homes (and I can document that if necessary later), and operated out of Florida. I'll post more as it becomes necessary.

Little reported, but obvious connections, if only previously, the latest Mamone thing is entirely Florida. Conservatively Mamone and his kids. This indictment is interesting to debate given the history. For those that was a substantive discussion, and not some "I know more than you" useless argument. I'd add my personal insight on tis one on how tings have changed, call it a diminished LCN exposure if you will, but obviously couldn't be proven to some poster's satisfaction. Notwithstanding the fact I'm asked to believe their posts with no documentation, no link, no anything except apparently the tracking of indictments from newspaper articles.

Lastly the Genovese indictment, one from Florida, three from Connecticut and one from NY proper. I'm not even going to the fact that two had (and presumably also operated) out of Palm Beach County. Yet.

I'm counting 12 out of 24 related to Florida, some fairly significantly related to Florida. If I peel away those with loose Florida connections, it's still over 20%. And I did this quickly off the top of my head, so I'm missing names, etc. But I'm not going to do any additional work until I have to. I suspect the responses (the argumentative ones) won't require me to do any additional work in any event.
Forgot about the Mamone one. That makes four recent indictments. Albeit he is a rat, he was/is made.

There is others in Tampa that are operating right now under the idea they are mob I am aware of. Younger crew associates from the last made guys from Trafficante/active Loscalzo era, possible but not probable they are made in my opinion. But I wanted to see if you would drop a name first. Havent heard of "Frankie" unless its simply Albano.
Nope, you’re not going to drop names, and neither am I. We’re alike in this area. To be clear, I don’t know any of the younger Tampa guys unless they are the younger pompano guys, and I have dropped some names there. I edited some of that out though. If they are the same, we either know if, or know the same people. If so, you can figure out who I am probably. Something I need to be more aware of.

I’ve been trying to locate a recent photo of Albano to either confirm or dismiss him as the Frank or Frankie. I’ve not had any success.

I’m active on a Discord. Less clutter to get though, more real world info. Do I recognize you from there?

I have another “mystery” I’m trying to figure out with some Lucchese connections to a quiet Midwestern state that doesn’t have Chicago located in it. Quite a while ago, the 80’s. Maybe you can help me out on that?

Also, I wouldn’t mind discussing entire Mamone thing. That’s an interesting topic to me as he lived four blocks from Mix. It’s the new normal. They guys making the money, and it’s almost exclusively a very pronounced “pyramid scheme”, want no attention, to the point they know exactly where Mamone is, and others, and no retribution is sought.

Back to Tampa, possibly Pompano, made or not made isn’t as important presently. What we used to say was I don’t need any help going to prison, I can go there on my own. If you’re going to do something, do it alone. Never take the short money. Some other talking on circle ways of making a point that is understood by some, but not others.

Thanks for your response.

Not from Discord.

I agree with it being unneccesary being made if mafia at all in todays age. If you are Italian and want to play the higher level criminal card/aura you can, relatively easily except for places like Montreal and Toronto, lets say in North America at least. I am familiar with Pompano, a friend of mine owns the restaurant right on the beach at the end of Atlantic.

I would consider Mamone still to be mafia related in terms of style and structure. Is he a rat yes, did he kick up to anyone? No. Still same pedigree though

Im too young for knowing any 80s stuff unless I research like anyone else
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Bruno187 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:41 pm In Johnny 1and1's defense, the fact that Nicky Slash Calisi was in Florida (supposedly not vacationing at Disney) and was all but unknown on this board, despite some knowing he was a made guy, kind of shows that guys can operate below the radar in Florida. So we don't know what we don't know essentially.
Granted, nothing like in the 90's or 2000's, but there is still a viable presence apparently.
While I don't have any pics of him, I can tell you he always reminded me of a young Robert Mitchum. :lol:
If guys can operator under the radar that means we dont know how many there is. There is no exception to that rule
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Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:35 pm
Newyorkempire wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:31 pm
Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:13 pm @Newyorkempire To clarify, there were some posts above where I wasn't replying to you. It's difficult to tell due to multiple quoted posters, but my responses were entirely directed to another poster. If you didn't know that, and you probably did, you know know it. I'm not a talented message board poster.

Farese is what I would consider one the last major indictments due to dollar size. You have Mix, Truglia, Gatto, and the two "reported from New Jersey, but those two own Florida houses. I'll err to the side of caution, and say 3 of 5 major players are from Florida. There are others involved, and I'm not going to take the time (right now) to post the rest.

The Colombo indictment is cloudier, but out of 14, and there are more, one is reported to be living in Florida. But at least 7 more have Florida homes (and I can document that if necessary later), and operated out of Florida. I'll post more as it becomes necessary.

Little reported, but obvious connections, if only previously, the latest Mamone thing is entirely Florida. Conservatively Mamone and his kids. This indictment is interesting to debate given the history. For those that was a substantive discussion, and not some "I know more than you" useless argument. I'd add my personal insight on tis one on how tings have changed, call it a diminished LCN exposure if you will, but obviously couldn't be proven to some poster's satisfaction. Notwithstanding the fact I'm asked to believe their posts with no documentation, no link, no anything except apparently the tracking of indictments from newspaper articles.

Lastly the Genovese indictment, one from Florida, three from Connecticut and one from NY proper. I'm not even going to the fact that two had (and presumably also operated) out of Palm Beach County. Yet.

I'm counting 12 out of 24 related to Florida, some fairly significantly related to Florida. If I peel away those with loose Florida connections, it's still over 20%. And I did this quickly off the top of my head, so I'm missing names, etc. But I'm not going to do any additional work until I have to. I suspect the responses (the argumentative ones) won't require me to do any additional work in any event.
Forgot about the Mamone one. That makes four recent indictments. Albeit he is a rat, he was/is made.

There is others in Tampa that are operating right now under the idea they are mob I am aware of. Younger crew associates from the last made guys from Trafficante/active Loscalzo era, possible but not probable they are made in my opinion. But I wanted to see if you would drop a name first. Havent heard of "Frankie" unless its simply Albano.
Nope, you’re not going to drop names, and neither am I. We’re alike in this area. To be clear, I don’t know any of the younger Tampa guys unless they are the younger pompano guys, and I have dropped some names there. I edited some of that out though. If they are the same, we either know if, or know the same people. If so, you can figure out who I am probably. Something I need to be more aware of.

I’ve been trying to locate a recent photo of Albano to either confirm or dismiss him as the Frank or Frankie. I’ve not had any success.

I’m active on a Discord. Less clutter to get though, more real world info. Do I recognize you from there?

I have another “mystery” I’m trying to figure out with some Lucchese connections to a quiet Midwestern state that doesn’t have Chicago located in it. Quite a while ago, the 80’s. Maybe you can help me out on that?

Also, I wouldn’t mind discussing entire Mamone thing. That’s an interesting topic to me as he lived four blocks from Mix. It’s the new normal. They guys making the money, and it’s almost exclusively a very pronounced “pyramid scheme”, want no attention, to the point they know exactly where Mamone is, and others, and no retribution is sought.

Back to Tampa, possibly Pompano, made or not made isn’t as important presently. What we used to say was I don’t need any help going to prison, I can go there on my own. If you’re going to do something, do it alone. Never take the short money. Some other talking on circle ways of making a point that is understood by some, but not others.

Thanks for your response.
I do not know who you are based on Pompano. They are not the same guys
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Bruno187 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:41 pm In Johnny 1and1's defense, the fact that Nicky Slash Calisi was in Florida (supposedly not vacationing at Disney) and was all but unknown on this board, despite some knowing he was a made guy, kind of shows that guys can operate below the radar in Florida. So we don't know what we don't know essentially.
Granted, nothing like in the 90's or 2000's, but there is still a viable presence apparently.
While I don't have any pics of him, I can tell you he always reminded me of a young Robert Mitchum. :lol:
Yes, we don't know what we don't know - and so can only go by what we do know - but what does that have to do with Johnny/Vacari's ridiculous claims in this thread. Calisi having a home in Florida (not sure it's even his primary residence) doesn't exactly prove his point.
Newyorkempire wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:50 pmIf guys can operator under the radar that means we dont know how many there is. There is no exception to that rule
This reminds me of a quote a certain author on a certain podcast made recently.

"There are a ton of guys, you're talking probably hundreds of guys around the country, that have buttons, that have leadership positions, that nobody knows of because they haven't been busted."
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Wiseguy wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:59 pm
Bruno187 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:41 pm In Johnny 1and1's defense, the fact that Nicky Slash Calisi was in Florida (supposedly not vacationing at Disney) and was all but unknown on this board, despite some knowing he was a made guy, kind of shows that guys can operate below the radar in Florida. So we don't know what we don't know essentially.
Granted, nothing like in the 90's or 2000's, but there is still a viable presence apparently.
While I don't have any pics of him, I can tell you he always reminded me of a young Robert Mitchum. :lol:
Yes, we don't know what we don't know - and so can only go by what we do know - but what does that have to do with Johnny/Vacari's ridiculous claims in this thread. Calisi having a home in Florida (not sure it's even his primary residence) doesn't exactly prove his point.
Newyorkempire wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:50 pmIf guys can operator under the radar that means we dont know how many there is. There is no exception to that rule
This reminds me of a quote a certain author on a certain podcast made recently.

"There are a ton of guys, you're talking probably hundreds of guys around the country, that have buttons, that have leadership positions, that nobody knows of because they haven't been busted."
Apples and oranges. Nowhere in that quote did I try implying hundreds, that would be entire families. Try staying grounded if you want to appeal to your fanbase. It was a good effort to misrepresent what I wrote though. Are you in law enforcement?
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Re: 6 charged in Genovese bust

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Newyorkempire wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:48 pm
Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:35 pm
Newyorkempire wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:31 pm
Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:13 pm @Newyorkempire To clarify, there were some posts above where I wasn't replying to you. It's difficult to tell due to multiple quoted posters, but my responses were entirely directed to another poster. If you didn't know that, and you probably did, you know know it. I'm not a talented message board poster.

Farese is what I would consider one the last major indictments due to dollar size. You have Mix, Truglia, Gatto, and the two "reported from New Jersey, but those two own Florida houses. I'll err to the side of caution, and say 3 of 5 major players are from Florida. There are others involved, and I'm not going to take the time (right now) to post the rest.

The Colombo indictment is cloudier, but out of 14, and there are more, one is reported to be living in Florida. But at least 7 more have Florida homes (and I can document that if necessary later), and operated out of Florida. I'll post more as it becomes necessary.

Little reported, but obvious connections, if only previously, the latest Mamone thing is entirely Florida. Conservatively Mamone and his kids. This indictment is interesting to debate given the history. For those that was a substantive discussion, and not some "I know more than you" useless argument. I'd add my personal insight on tis one on how tings have changed, call it a diminished LCN exposure if you will, but obviously couldn't be proven to some poster's satisfaction. Notwithstanding the fact I'm asked to believe their posts with no documentation, no link, no anything except apparently the tracking of indictments from newspaper articles.

Lastly the Genovese indictment, one from Florida, three from Connecticut and one from NY proper. I'm not even going to the fact that two had (and presumably also operated) out of Palm Beach County. Yet.

I'm counting 12 out of 24 related to Florida, some fairly significantly related to Florida. If I peel away those with loose Florida connections, it's still over 20%. And I did this quickly off the top of my head, so I'm missing names, etc. But I'm not going to do any additional work until I have to. I suspect the responses (the argumentative ones) won't require me to do any additional work in any event.
Forgot about the Mamone one. That makes four recent indictments. Albeit he is a rat, he was/is made.

There is others in Tampa that are operating right now under the idea they are mob I am aware of. Younger crew associates from the last made guys from Trafficante/active Loscalzo era, possible but not probable they are made in my opinion. But I wanted to see if you would drop a name first. Havent heard of "Frankie" unless its simply Albano.
Nope, you’re not going to drop names, and neither am I. We’re alike in this area. To be clear, I don’t know any of the younger Tampa guys unless they are the younger pompano guys, and I have dropped some names there. I edited some of that out though. If they are the same, we either know if, or know the same people. If so, you can figure out who I am probably. Something I need to be more aware of.

I’ve been trying to locate a recent photo of Albano to either confirm or dismiss him as the Frank or Frankie. I’ve not had any success.

I’m active on a Discord. Less clutter to get though, more real world info. Do I recognize you from there?

I have another “mystery” I’m trying to figure out with some Lucchese connections to a quiet Midwestern state that doesn’t have Chicago located in it. Quite a while ago, the 80’s. Maybe you can help me out on that?

Also, I wouldn’t mind discussing entire Mamone thing. That’s an interesting topic to me as he lived four blocks from Mix. It’s the new normal. They guys making the money, and it’s almost exclusively a very pronounced “pyramid scheme”, want no attention, to the point they know exactly where Mamone is, and others, and no retribution is sought.

Back to Tampa, possibly Pompano, made or not made isn’t as important presently. What we used to say was I don’t need any help going to prison, I can go there on my own. If you’re going to do something, do it alone. Never take the short money. Some other talking on circle ways of making a point that is understood by some, but not others.

Thanks for your response.

Not from Discord.

I agree with it being unneccesary being made if mafia at all in todays age. If you are Italian and want to play the higher level criminal card/aura you can, relatively easily except for places like Montreal and Toronto, lets say in North America at least. I am familiar with Pompano, a friend of mine owns the restaurant right on the beach at the end of Atlantic.

I would consider Mamone still to be mafia related in terms of style and structure. Is he a rat yes, did he kick up to anyone? No. Still same pedigree though

Im too young for knowing any 80s stuff unless I research like anyone else
Are you referring to Frank’s old restaurant? That’s gone. His family has a pizza kiosk right on the beach now. If you’re referring to Frank, he’s very old and declining. His daughter, I believe his daughter, drove him by the caffe a couple of times. He can barely get out of a vehicle.

Some old timers meet on the beach before heading to the cafe. I’ve gone a few times, but Pompano has been having significant development if you haven’t been recently. Parking there is an issue. Frank’s place is gone, and Frank will soon be gone. Not to be morbid, but if that’s the reataurant you’re referring to, things have changed.
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Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 2:06 pm
Newyorkempire wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:48 pm
Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 1:35 pm
Newyorkempire wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:31 pm
Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:13 pm @Newyorkempire To clarify, there were some posts above where I wasn't replying to you. It's difficult to tell due to multiple quoted posters, but my responses were entirely directed to another poster. If you didn't know that, and you probably did, you know know it. I'm not a talented message board poster.

Farese is what I would consider one the last major indictments due to dollar size. You have Mix, Truglia, Gatto, and the two "reported from New Jersey, but those two own Florida houses. I'll err to the side of caution, and say 3 of 5 major players are from Florida. There are others involved, and I'm not going to take the time (right now) to post the rest.

The Colombo indictment is cloudier, but out of 14, and there are more, one is reported to be living in Florida. But at least 7 more have Florida homes (and I can document that if necessary later), and operated out of Florida. I'll post more as it becomes necessary.

Little reported, but obvious connections, if only previously, the latest Mamone thing is entirely Florida. Conservatively Mamone and his kids. This indictment is interesting to debate given the history. For those that was a substantive discussion, and not some "I know more than you" useless argument. I'd add my personal insight on tis one on how tings have changed, call it a diminished LCN exposure if you will, but obviously couldn't be proven to some poster's satisfaction. Notwithstanding the fact I'm asked to believe their posts with no documentation, no link, no anything except apparently the tracking of indictments from newspaper articles.

Lastly the Genovese indictment, one from Florida, three from Connecticut and one from NY proper. I'm not even going to the fact that two had (and presumably also operated) out of Palm Beach County. Yet.

I'm counting 12 out of 24 related to Florida, some fairly significantly related to Florida. If I peel away those with loose Florida connections, it's still over 20%. And I did this quickly off the top of my head, so I'm missing names, etc. But I'm not going to do any additional work until I have to. I suspect the responses (the argumentative ones) won't require me to do any additional work in any event.
Forgot about the Mamone one. That makes four recent indictments. Albeit he is a rat, he was/is made.

There is others in Tampa that are operating right now under the idea they are mob I am aware of. Younger crew associates from the last made guys from Trafficante/active Loscalzo era, possible but not probable they are made in my opinion. But I wanted to see if you would drop a name first. Havent heard of "Frankie" unless its simply Albano.
Nope, you’re not going to drop names, and neither am I. We’re alike in this area. To be clear, I don’t know any of the younger Tampa guys unless they are the younger pompano guys, and I have dropped some names there. I edited some of that out though. If they are the same, we either know if, or know the same people. If so, you can figure out who I am probably. Something I need to be more aware of.

I’ve been trying to locate a recent photo of Albano to either confirm or dismiss him as the Frank or Frankie. I’ve not had any success.

I’m active on a Discord. Less clutter to get though, more real world info. Do I recognize you from there?

I have another “mystery” I’m trying to figure out with some Lucchese connections to a quiet Midwestern state that doesn’t have Chicago located in it. Quite a while ago, the 80’s. Maybe you can help me out on that?

Also, I wouldn’t mind discussing entire Mamone thing. That’s an interesting topic to me as he lived four blocks from Mix. It’s the new normal. They guys making the money, and it’s almost exclusively a very pronounced “pyramid scheme”, want no attention, to the point they know exactly where Mamone is, and others, and no retribution is sought.

Back to Tampa, possibly Pompano, made or not made isn’t as important presently. What we used to say was I don’t need any help going to prison, I can go there on my own. If you’re going to do something, do it alone. Never take the short money. Some other talking on circle ways of making a point that is understood by some, but not others.

Thanks for your response.

Not from Discord.

I agree with it being unneccesary being made if mafia at all in todays age. If you are Italian and want to play the higher level criminal card/aura you can, relatively easily except for places like Montreal and Toronto, lets say in North America at least. I am familiar with Pompano, a friend of mine owns the restaurant right on the beach at the end of Atlantic.

I would consider Mamone still to be mafia related in terms of style and structure. Is he a rat yes, did he kick up to anyone? No. Still same pedigree though

Im too young for knowing any 80s stuff unless I research like anyone else
Are you referring to Frank’s old restaurant? That’s gone. His family has a pizza kiosk right on the beach now. If you’re referring to Frank, he’s very old and declining. His daughter, I believe his daughter, drove him by the caffe a couple of times. He can barely get out of a vehicle.

Some old timers meet on the beach before heading to the cafe. I’ve gone a few times, but Pompano has been having significant development if you haven’t been recently. Parking there is an issue. Frank’s place is gone, and Frank will soon be gone. Not to be morbid, but if that’s the reataurant you’re referring to, things have changed.
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Ah, the intersection of Atlantic and A1A. When you said beach, I thought you meant Briney and Atlantic right on the ocean.

I’ve eaten at Carluccis. I’ll give him this, he is almost always there, and working.

Some of the guys I hang with know him from New York. I’m guessing he had a pizzeria there at one time from what I’ve heard. Outside of this, I don’t know him, and I’d never guess him to be connected, which I don’t think he is. If he is, he’s about as below the radar as you could be, because as I think you’re starting to guess, I know who is who in Pompano past and present.

My Tampa experience is a club in Ybor, both Cubans and Italians were regulars. I don’t know my way around Tampa that well, but if I needed to know what to avoid, I could probably easily fond out. I don’t have that need, so I’ve never asked.
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Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 2:17 pm Ah, the intersection of Atlantic and A1A. When you said beach, I thought you meant Briney and Atlantic right on the ocean.

I’ve eaten at Carluccis. I’ll give him this, he is almost always there, and working.

Some of the guys I hang with know him from New York. I’m guessing he had a pizzeria there at one time from what I’ve heard. Outside of this, I don’t know him, and I’d never guess him to be connected, which I don’t think he is. If he is, he’s about as below the radar as you could be, because as I think you’re starting to guess, I know who is who in Pompano past and present.

My Tampa experience is a club in Ybor, both Cubans and Italians were regulars. I don’t know my way around Tampa that well, but if I needed to know what to avoid, I could probably easily fond out. I don’t have that need, so I’ve never asked.
He had the place in Lauderdale for years before moving there. Tampa has a lot of unique spots. All the Cubans in the west side are to this day enamored with Italians. Loscalzo was talked about the other day in a barber shop on Lincoln
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Re: 6 charged in Genovese bust

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I stayed on Clearwater Beach for two winters when Pompano was hot during the Reynold Maragni thing. I never made me way around, and kept a low profile. I was essentially just some guy from the Midwest down for a couple of months in the winter.

I never knew Carlucci had a place in FLL. I thought he came from NYC. I never paid much attention and have only eaten there a couple of times.

The out of town NY guys often ate at Franks right on the ocean, but the hang out is west on Atlantic, over the intercoastal bridge, but east of Federal (US1). The short term visitors, back and forth to NY, stay at the place previously mentioned. Or have places within probably 5-12 miles of Pompano.

My Tampa understanding dates back to Raffa. He lives west, and ran the club hidden, but operated out west closer to where he lived. There were washing money through some check cashing places.

I used to stay right on the ocean at a Turkish / Russian guy’s place. Real estate overheated. That place now rents for 6000-8000 monthly during season. Last winter I stayed there. When I went back in April to bring a car back, I stayed closer to Cypress. Owned by a “gentleman” coincidently the fish place was in that area. Due Amici. That place is gone I believe. It had serious Tampa connections.

But as I speculated before, the one Tampa guy I know of down there is definitely cooperating with Colombo guys. I rent from a Colombo guy, so I have a little bit of insight into this. Don’t misunderstand, I’m pretty far on the outside at this point, but it’s not like I don’t know what’s happening down here either. At least in the winter. I like all of those guys, and mostly socialize with the ones who have quit. So like down there, I posting on here about history, not really naming any active names that can’t be found with a little bit of research. If they can’t be going, I ain’t posting about it. If it’s in the public realm, that’s a different thing.

Interesting that we both have some commonality on that area. Maybe too interesting.
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Re: 6 charged in Genovese bust

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Johnny1and1 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 2:44 pm I stayed on Clearwater Beach for two winters when Pompano was hot during the Reynold Maragni thing. I never made me way around, and kept a low profile. I was essentially just some guy from the Midwest down for a couple of months in the winter.

I never knew Carlucci had a place in FLL. I thought he came from NYC. I never paid much attention and have only eaten there a couple of times.

The out of town NY guys often ate at Franks right on the ocean, but the hang out is west on Atlantic, over the intercoastal bridge, but east of Federal (US1). The short term visitors, back and forth to NY, stay at the place previously mentioned. Or have places within probably 5-12 miles of Pompano.

My Tampa understanding dates back to Raffa. He lives west, and ran the club hidden, but operated out west closer to where he lived. There were washing money through some check cashing places.

I used to stay right on the ocean at a Turkish / Russian guy’s place. Real estate overheated. That place now rents for 6000-8000 monthly during season. Last winter I stayed there. When I went back in April to bring a car back, I stayed closer to Cypress. Owned by a “gentleman” coincidently the fish place was in that area. Due Amici. That place is gone I believe. It had serious Tampa connections.

But as I speculated before, the one Tampa guy I know of down there is definitely cooperating with Colombo guys. I rent from a Colombo guy, so I have a little bit of insight into this. Don’t misunderstand, I’m pretty far on the outside at this point, but it’s not like I don’t know what’s happening down here either. At least in the winter. I like all of those guys, and mostly socialize with the ones who have quit. So like down there, I posting on here about history, not really naming any active names that can’t be found with a little bit of research. If they can’t be going, I ain’t posting about it. If it’s in the public realm, that’s a different thing.

Interesting that we both have some commonality on that area. Maybe too interesting.
Near the airport. Same name. Originally from NY. Due Amicy still open I believe or theres the same named place in Delray?
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Re: 6 charged in Genovese bust

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Near the airport to me would have been Anthony’s Runway. Anthony Bruno. Mostly known for Anthony’s Coal Fired Pizza. Sold that and bought Taco Craft. Sold Taco Craft. Anthony’s Runway is still around, but Carlucci isn’t Bruno, so I don’t have any other knowledge of Carlucci’s place by FLL airport.

Lesser known was Bruno’s involvement in Waste Management. That’s history, and sure how one could prove that. But he was, and he now just is a restaurant and real estate guy.

I guess we’ll just leave it at I’ve eaten at your friends place in Pompano.

Again, very interesting conversation for me to have with you. Thanks for your responses. If you’re around Pomapno next winter, I’ll buy you a caffe. Danesi, which I prefer over Lavazza. We’ll have it a t a place where you might recognize some folks from Tampa. If you’re with me, there will be no issues. It’s certainly open to the public. And the public walks in from town to time. But most don’t go unless they are known. Or at least spend a lot of time there unless they are known or perceived to be safe.

No skin off of my teeth. Just buying a guy some caffe. I got nothing to hide or worry about.
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Re: 6 charged in Genovese bust

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eta, I think a couple of places called Due Amici in or around the area. But the fish place that hit the news is gone. They control a rob and rig place in the area. Joint Tampa Colombo thing to my knowledge. Not 100% certain about that, but it’s a good guess.

Used to a a bunch of controlle slaves low that in Tampa. Can’t say I didn’t partake on the house a couple of times. Not sure if that situation presently exists in Tampa or not. That seems to be your borgota. Not mine.
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