When Gene Gotti Gets Out

[NYNighthawk]

Keep in mind both Gene Gotti and John Carneglia were both alleged to be shooters at Sparks and gunned down Big Paulie. There is not statue of limitations for murder

[Pete]

Keep in mind both Gene Gotti and John Carneglia were both alleged to be shooters at Sparks and gunned down Big Paulie. There is not statue of limitations for murder

Gene was not a shooter in that one

[Mukremin]

There were many names mentioned as alleged shooters. Who were the exact shooters? Carneglia and Artuso?

[Pogo The Clown]

My memory is hazy but I don't think Gene was a shooter but helped organize it and was on the scene. Same with Angelo Ruggiero. I believe the shooters were Carneglia, Sally Scala, Vinny Artuso, Dominick Pizzonia and Tony "Roach" Rampino. There may have been more. My memory is hazy so correct me if I'm wrong.


Pogo

[bronx]

ed lino, sal scala, john carnig, vinny artuso

[SonnyBlackstein]

Richard Kuklinski.

[bronx]

hoffa and jfk also

[Pete]

My memory is hazy but I don't think Gene was a shooter but helped organize it and was on the scene. Same with Angelo Ruggiero. I believe the shooters were Carneglia, Sally Scala, Vinny Artuso, Dominick Pizzonia and Tony "Roach" Rampino. There may have been more. My memory is hazy so correct me if I'm wrong.


Pogo

I thought joe watts was on that too could be wrong though

[Pogo The Clown]

Yeah I think Watts was also one same with Eddie Lino which Bronx mentioned above. If I remember right there was the man group of shooters pls a back up group of shooters.


Let's not forget The Iceman Richard Kuklinski being a shooter.


Pogo

[bronx]

My memory is hazy but I don't think Gene was a shooter but helped organize it and was on the scene. Same with Angelo Ruggiero. I believe the shooters were Carneglia, Sally Scala, Vinny Artuso, Dominick Pizzonia and Tony "Roach" Rampino. There may have been more. My memory is hazy so correct me if I'm wrong.


Pogo

I thought joe watts was on that too could be wrong though

HE was but not one of the 4 shooters

[phatmatress777]

Roach was a back up shooter


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[Cheech]

below

[Cheech]

that is the picture of sammy 302 talking about who the shooters were and back ups and yadda yadda
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/sammy ... gs?page=31
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/sammy ... gs?page=32

[rayray]

http://www.nysun.com/new-york/20-years- ... tes/23786/

From a Capeci article, December 1, 2005

"The feds have never linked mobster Dominick "Skinny Dom" Pizzonia, a longtime Gotti pal from Ozone Park, Queens, to the Castellano rubout, but law enforcement sources say he was a backup shooter stationed near Second Avenue. Pizzonia's role was long hidden because Gravano "confused Skinny Dom with another buddy of Gotti's, Iggy Alogna," a source said."


When you read through these articles and what Cheech posted from the Smoking Gun it's obvious that John Gotti was neck deep in heroin. I also always considered Joe Watts closer to Gotti but now I wonder if he was closer to Sammy Gravano? I found it interesting that they showed up to the park meeting later then everyone else, I wonder if that was by design? Just in case, for whatever reason. A lot of people always talked about Casso being smarter and more feared then Gravano and maybe he was but Gravano, imho, comes across as a slippery fuck and very calculating with different options in place.

[rayray]

From the sources above,

Hit Team:

Edward Lino and Sal Scala took out Thomas Bilotti
John Carneglia and Vinny Artuso took out Paul Castellano


Backup team:

Tony Roach Rampino/Ang Ruggiero/Joe Watts/Iggy Alongo (Although it could have been Dom Pizzonia)


Lincoln parked on corner:

John Gotti (Driver) with Sammy Gravano in passenger seat with walkie talkie


Sparks Steak House:

Frank De Cicco(inside man)/James Failla/John Gammarano

Thomas Gambino and Danny Marino (not yet there?)