When California Dreaming Becomes Deadly: Was Hamilton (ON) Mob Figure “Made” In L.A. In The Weeks Before He Was Killed?

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Re: When California Dreaming Becomes Deadly: Was Hamilton (ON) Mob Figure “Made” In L.A. In The Weeks Before He Was Kill

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motorfab wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:15 pm I think Robert Paduano & Phil Dioguardi are also still alive
So is Lenny Montana but it's not clear, from what I've seen, they are made.
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Wiseguy wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:12 pm
Newyorkempire wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 12:29 pm What is left in LA after Gambino?
In the Southern California itself? Tommy Gambino and and Michael Esposito. Louie Caruso in Phoenix. Russell Masetta in Cleveland. Rocco Zangari in Buffalo.

That's what's left of the LA family.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:21 pm According to Kenny Gallo, Paduano never did get made. He was scheduled to be made but the ceremony was called off because the guys were being followed by LE.


Rusty Mssetta is probably dead. He was the brother in law of the Milano brothers so he would be ancient if he were still alive. He was shelved in the 1980s and moved to Cleveland.


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Masetta may still be alive, he was actually the son-in-law of Pete Milano, I believe married to his daughter, Antoinette.
https://www.cleveland.com/pdextra/2010/ ... setta.html

This website claims he was born 10/23/1952, so he'd be 70 this year
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iirc felice said Tommy Gambino is an LA family member but answers to the Gambinos in NY.
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So this is another circumstance of amalgamation in the Mafia
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But Tommy Gambino arent the Gambino family rappresentante in Los Angeles?
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sdeitche wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:33 am Wow, a Canadian OC guy made by LA, which drew the ire of Buffalo. Can't wait to see the responses on this thread! :D

Serious question- if Iavarone (which BTW there are Iavarones in Tampa- did Albert come from Santo Stefano or Allessandrai Della rocca?) was indeed made into L.A., and subsequently killed, this would be the first murder of a made L.A. guy since when?
Good question -- I assumed he was non-Sicilian given the crowd in Hamilton, but have no idea. When we looked into it before I found he and his wife appear to have had a condo in Florida in addition to other US travels that took them to the San Diego area.
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My understanding is he's made into the LA family but I guess there's not much out there so he answers to the Gambinos. Why they didn't just induct him into the Gambino family I don't know. It's not like they don't have a member in LA (Joe Isgro) or other members outside NY.
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As Pete Milano's last underboss (allegedly), Tommy Gambino could still make people. As we know, according to Cosa Nostra rules or traditions a borgata isn't considered defunct until the last member passes.
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Antiliar wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:56 pm As Pete Milano's last underboss (allegedly), Tommy Gambino could still make people. As we know, according to Cosa Nostra rules or traditions a borgata isn't considered defunct until the last member passes.
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I haven't quite confirmed yet but I'm fairly certain Tony and Albert Iavarone's father Giuseppe and mother Rosa (both deceased) were respectively born in Pannarano (Benevento) and Casagiove (Caserta), both of which are in Campania. Giuseppe was possibly born to parents Pietro and Maria (née Caputo). Rosa may have had the maiden name Melone.
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Is this a case of the books were closed for the Gambinos so they used LA to get him made. I’ve heard NY cities have done this when the books are closed.
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Gambino might "answer" to the Gambino Family in the sense that he's under their influence/power, which he no doubt is.

- Tommy's brother Tony Gambino worked for Joe Isgro according to Kenji and he married the daughter of a Sicilian mafia member according to Felice. They have a network they can use given their clan has been in power again in NYC and Palermo. Tommy's father jumped right back into mafia association after prison based on the recent case.

- You also had Accursio Dimino the boss of Sciacca recently recorded talking with someone about the idea of putting gambling machines in California because the Ribera Family already had machines in Canada in connection with the Cattolica Eraclea guys there. So the Sicilian mafia has been interested in setting up international slot machine operations on the west coast and Canada. Dimino's associate (member?) Sergio Gucciardi already had machines in NYC and Gucciardi was closely involved with the Bonanno Family, showing up with the Bonanno leadership during social club surveillance in 2013 (info came out of the Asaro case as Asaro and DiFiore were with Gucciardi). Dimino and Gucciardi also met in Sicily with an NJ-based Castellammarese guy who was close to the Montagnas.

- Supposedly Dimino and his man Gucciardi also had contact with the Gambino Family in NYC but there wasn't as much info on that as the Bonanno connection. An Italian article ID'd Gucciardi and Frank Cali having a common link through Leonardo Zinna in the fruit business. The Gambino Sicilian faction has ties to the mafia in Agrigento via Semplice and Acquista.

If Iavarone was Sicilian you might theorize he fell into this big network but if as Antimafia says he was not, it really is a mystery if he was recruited by LA.
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Just to further clarify, my sources are not saying the hit came from Buffalo or Todaro, just that Todaro felt offended by the protocol and wasn't happy with what happened.

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JoePuzzles234 wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:59 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:21 pm According to Kenny Gallo, Paduano never did get made. He was scheduled to be made but the ceremony was called off because the guys were being followed by LE.


Rusty Mssetta is probably dead. He was the brother in law of the Milano brothers so he would be ancient if he were still alive. He was shelved in the 1980s and moved to Cleveland.


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Masetta may still be alive, he was actually the son-in-law of Pete Milano, I believe married to his daughter, Antoinette.
https://www.cleveland.com/pdextra/2010/ ... setta.html

This website claims he was born 10/23/1952, so he'd be 70 this year

Thanks for this. My memory was hazy.


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