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So he's saying these Lobue brothers and Jason Nitti are made?
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Antiliar wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:37 pm Chatted with my source again. He doesn't know any Chinatown people, but says that a Caruso is good friends with Monteleone. He said that there's three made guys operating in Elmwood Park for Solly D. Max Lobue and his brother Matt Lobue, and Jason Nitti. Jason is the adopted son of a Cerone. Rosa Cerone is his mother. He worked for Anthony Marano in the produce business, but things aren't going well. Max Lobue owns Zaza Trattoria. Mike Bertucci is a drug dealer in EP, and his father is the police chief. Jimmy Marcello and Mike Sarno did make new guys who he calls "a bunch of degenerates." Max Lobue and Jason Nitti used to valet cars for Solly D - that's how they got in. Matteo or Max lives in Barrington very near Solly D. Jason Nitti is actually a Calabrese. The Lobues grew up in Desplaines. [This is from me, their names sound like they or their parents came from Corleone.] He said that the father of the Lobues was a cop in Italy. Dino Vitale was their inside man on the Cicero police force, and James Formato in Berwyn PD. Max and Solly D co-owned a warehouse in Elk Grove Village called S Produce. He says that EP only has a small crew of three guys with no capo. There are small crews like this operating in different places. Max Lobue is Massimo Lobue. His father was Filippo Lobue, who was a corrupt Italian cop.

Max Lobue - D&L Produce in Elk Grove Village: https://allpeople.com/max+lobue_d-l-pro ... ice-inc-us
http://www.salespider.com/b-41039472/d- ... fd-svc-inc
https://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory ... 82678.html
https://wiza.co/d/anthony-marano-compan ... ason-nitti
https://www.freightallkinds.com/news/el ... f-produce/

This is the correct Zaza's: https://zazaslb.com/?fbclid=IwAR2WqQ_X1 ... HRB9PIIi3w
It's "Lo Bue" I think and they grew up in Elk Grove next door to Des Plaines - could his father be Anthony LoBue a corrupt Chicago Cop? He was convicted in Canada for kidnapping charges with Anthony DiSilva. They have a few sons I think.
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He said their father is Filippo Lobue and he was a corrupt Italian cop.
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So where do guys like Dote fit in? Gary Gags?
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funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:55 pm So where do guys like Dote fit in? Gary Gags?
Bobby Abbinatte as well
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Anyone know if they are still skimming the casinos
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Scott had an article from a couple of years ago that said the top guys in EP were Fratto, Al Mitria, Abbinanti, and Dote. Interesting that the source doesn't mention any of them. I think the CCC was his main source for the article (I'm not big on the CCC being the main source for anything), which also mentioned EP potentially being folded into Cicero. It also claimed Fratto was getting a bump, but it seems like he is persona non grata in current affairs and has been for a few years.

If EP was folded into Cicero, maybe all of the guys mentioned above are under Inendino and the three guys mentioned by the source are essentially working with scraps in EP. Maybe there is more for guys like Dote and Abbinanti in Cicero or elsewhere.
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funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:55 pm So where do guys like Dote fit in? Gary Gags?
Maybe they don't. Mike Mags said the Dotes worked for Marco, and neither the Dotes, nor Marco nor Gary Gags were made guys as of the early 2000s and in his opinion were never made (unless they got made later and he didn't know about it).
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Antiliar wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:37 pm Chatted with my source again. He doesn't know any Chinatown people, but says that a Caruso is good friends with Monteleone. He said that there's three made guys operating in Elmwood Park for Solly D. Max Lobue and his brother Matt Lobue, and Jason Nitti. Jason is the adopted son of a Cerone. Rosa Cerone is his mother. He worked for Anthony Marano in the produce business, but things aren't going well. Max Lobue owns Zaza Trattoria. Mike Bertucci is a drug dealer in EP, and his father is the police chief. Jimmy Marcello and Mike Sarno did make new guys who he calls "a bunch of degenerates." Max Lobue and Jason Nitti used to valet cars for Solly D - that's how they got in. Matteo or Max lives in Barrington very near Solly D. Jason Nitti is actually a Calabrese. The Lobues grew up in Desplaines. [This is from me, their names sound like they or their parents came from Corleone.] He said that the father of the Lobues was a cop in Italy. Dino Vitale was their inside man on the Cicero police force, and James Formato in Berwyn PD. Max and Solly D co-owned a warehouse in Elk Grove Village called S Produce. He says that EP only has a small crew of three guys with no capo. There are small crews like this operating in different places. Max Lobue is Massimo Lobue. His father was Filippo Lobue, who was a corrupt Italian cop.

Max Lobue - D&L Produce in Elk Grove Village: https://allpeople.com/max+lobue_d-l-pro ... ice-inc-us
http://www.salespider.com/b-41039472/d- ... fd-svc-inc
https://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory ... 82678.html
https://wiza.co/d/anthony-marano-compan ... ason-nitti
https://www.freightallkinds.com/news/el ... f-produce/

This is the correct Zaza's: https://zazaslb.com/?fbclid=IwAR2WqQ_X1 ... HRB9PIIi3w
Oh wow…….

Agreed on the LoBues probably being from Corleone or that area (Prizzi, etc). This is interesting as a couple of the guys who identified in the Chicago zips thread I thought were probably from the Corleone area. Another potentially important note is that Giacomo Ruggirello who died when his house torched the same day his restaurant in the North burbs was robbed (with Mandell as suspected of being involved) was I believe Corleonese and just before he died had apparently suddenly changed the beneficiary of his will from his daughter to a guy back in Corleone.

Also, I don’t doubt that any of the next gen guys made into the Outfit have been degenerates. What comes up for me over and over is that the guys around the Outfit today, apart from top echelon made guys who are now gangster-gentlemen like Solly D and Joey A, are some nasty and dangerous people.
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Antiliar wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:23 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:55 pm So where do guys like Dote fit in? Gary Gags?
Maybe they don't. Mike Mags said the Dotes worked for Marco, and neither the Dotes, nor Marco nor Gary Gags were made guys as of the early 2000s and in his opinion were never made (unless they got made later and he didn't know about it).
When was the last time you were in contact with him? I'd heard a rumor that he'd been allowed to dip his toe back in so to speak. Nothing substantiated of course, only rumor.
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funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:27 pm
Antiliar wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:23 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:55 pm So where do guys like Dote fit in? Gary Gags?
Maybe they don't. Mike Mags said the Dotes worked for Marco, and neither the Dotes, nor Marco nor Gary Gags were made guys as of the early 2000s and in his opinion were never made (unless they got made later and he didn't know about it).
When was the last time you were in contact with him? I'd heard a rumor that he'd been allowed to dip his toe back in so to speak. Nothing substantiated of course, only rumor.
If he dipping his toe back in I doubt he would tell me and I wouldn't ask. There's some things that are off-limits.
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Antiliar wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:32 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:27 pm
Antiliar wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:23 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:55 pm So where do guys like Dote fit in? Gary Gags?
Maybe they don't. Mike Mags said the Dotes worked for Marco, and neither the Dotes, nor Marco nor Gary Gags were made guys as of the early 2000s and in his opinion were never made (unless they got made later and he didn't know about it).
When was the last time you were in contact with him? I'd heard a rumor that he'd been allowed to dip his toe back in so to speak. Nothing substantiated of course, only rumor.
If he dipping his toe back in I doubt he would tell me and I wouldn't ask. There's some things that are off-limits.
No, I get that. Just curious if you think the possibility exists? I believe the rumor I had heard was he was either making book or was being allowed to run a game in Bartlett. But its been awhile.
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PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:24 pm
Antiliar wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:37 pm Chatted with my source again. He doesn't know any Chinatown people, but says that a Caruso is good friends with Monteleone. He said that there's three made guys operating in Elmwood Park for Solly D. Max Lobue and his brother Matt Lobue, and Jason Nitti. Jason is the adopted son of a Cerone. Rosa Cerone is his mother. He worked for Anthony Marano in the produce business, but things aren't going well. Max Lobue owns Zaza Trattoria. Mike Bertucci is a drug dealer in EP, and his father is the police chief. Jimmy Marcello and Mike Sarno did make new guys who he calls "a bunch of degenerates." Max Lobue and Jason Nitti used to valet cars for Solly D - that's how they got in. Matteo or Max lives in Barrington very near Solly D. Jason Nitti is actually a Calabrese. The Lobues grew up in Desplaines. [This is from me, their names sound like they or their parents came from Corleone.] He said that the father of the Lobues was a cop in Italy. Dino Vitale was their inside man on the Cicero police force, and James Formato in Berwyn PD. Max and Solly D co-owned a warehouse in Elk Grove Village called S Produce. He says that EP only has a small crew of three guys with no capo. There are small crews like this operating in different places. Max Lobue is Massimo Lobue. His father was Filippo Lobue, who was a corrupt Italian cop.

Max Lobue - D&L Produce in Elk Grove Village: https://allpeople.com/max+lobue_d-l-pro ... ice-inc-us
http://www.salespider.com/b-41039472/d- ... fd-svc-inc
https://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory ... 82678.html
https://wiza.co/d/anthony-marano-compan ... ason-nitti
https://www.freightallkinds.com/news/el ... f-produce/

This is the correct Zaza's: https://zazaslb.com/?fbclid=IwAR2WqQ_X1 ... HRB9PIIi3w
Oh wow…….

Agreed on the LoBues probably being from Corleone or that area (Prizzi, etc). This is interesting as a couple of the guys who identified in the Chicago zips thread I thought were probably from the Corleone area. Another potentially important note is that Giacomo Ruggirello who died when his house torched the same day his restaurant in the North burbs was robbed (with Mandell as suspected of being involved) was I believe Corleonese and just before he died had apparently suddenly changed the beneficiary of his will from his daughter to a guy back in Corleone.

Also, I don’t doubt that any of the next gen guys made into the Outfit have been degenerates. What comes up for me over and over is that the guys around the Outfit today, apart from top echelon made guys who are now gangster-gentlemen like Solly D and Joey A, are some nasty and dangerous people.
I thought Filippo Lobue might be from Corleone, but he's says he's not. I'll have to wait until he gets back to me on that one.

He says Solly D has bad judgment. That seems obvious from his Facebook account. A lot of these guys are on Facebook. Not real bright if you're a member of a "secret society." Cicero (don't know about the other crews) is involved in drugs.
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funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:34 pm
Antiliar wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:32 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:27 pm
Antiliar wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:23 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:55 pm So where do guys like Dote fit in? Gary Gags?
Maybe they don't. Mike Mags said the Dotes worked for Marco, and neither the Dotes, nor Marco nor Gary Gags were made guys as of the early 2000s and in his opinion were never made (unless they got made later and he didn't know about it).
When was the last time you were in contact with him? I'd heard a rumor that he'd been allowed to dip his toe back in so to speak. Nothing substantiated of course, only rumor.
If he dipping his toe back in I doubt he would tell me and I wouldn't ask. There's some things that are off-limits.
No, I get that. Just curious if you think the possibility exists? I believe the rumor I had heard was he was either making book or was being allowed to run a game in Bartlett. But its been awhile.
I have no idea.
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Did you source have any idea about Dino Marino's status? Or how about the supposed meetings between the Genovese and Marcello's kid?
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