Youngstown's Naples (Pittsburgh) & Carabbia (Cleveland) War
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Re: Youngstown's Naples (Pittsburgh) & Carabbia (Cleveland) War
got some nice pictures of some of these guys from that weird one-eyed Indian reporter dude, first mugshots of several prominent guys and then young Lenny Strollo
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Sounds like these guys killed off their own recruits. Now they are nothing. Not the brightest thing to do. And if Cleveland let it happen, then they are not much smarterStroccos wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:29 amTronolone got it when he became boss, don’t know when it ended probably in the late 80’s early 90’s if I had to guessIvan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:01 pm Cleveland did stop getting a cut eventually, yes? Probably after the Licavoli convictions?
I can't really picture Cleveland getting a cut in the Strollo era.
Of course no one gets a cut anywhere now. Probably not a bad time for independent bookies & sharks in the Valley.
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Great photo of Strollo
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Thanks. Zooming in it seems to be from 1963.
From what I understand he was actually involved even as a little kid in the 30s, running errands for the guys like Henry Hill in Goodfellas or something.
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Lenny and Bernie grew up together as best friends only to have Lenny roll on Bernie for caring out his orders to wack Ernie.
Just curious; anyone besides me know any of these fine fellows? Other than the two Charlies, I knew them all and liked Bernie the most, Lenny the least!
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I went to All American Club when I was a teenager w my Dad and some Campbell Greeks but the only one I remember knowing/seeing was Frankie Lentin. I do know for a fact that these guys all used to play in a card game at the Phoenix Rest in Sharon though..FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:03 pmLenny and Bernie grew up together as best friends only to have Lenny roll on Bernie for caring out his orders to wack Ernie.
Just curious; anyone besides me know any of these fine fellows? Other than the two Charlies, I knew them all and liked Bernie the most, Lenny the least!
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I can't figure out this old school image upload system. If you hit the link, it goes to NY 2300, and describes a group in 1960s Youngtown targeting LCN members for assassination. It was big enough a deal that it made it to the commission. Any idea who this group was comprised of?
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I've seen this before and I have no idea who it is talking about.
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Me either, maybe JCB or Stroccos might know who?
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it says on the first page of the document , the group is onorata societa , durnig this time was when the bombing war was going on , the naples brothers and the various bombings, could they be referring to the vince deniro or cadillac charlie hits
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Yes, that makes perfect sense.Stroccos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:16 amit says on the first page of the document , the group is onorata societa , durnig this time was when the bombing war was going on , the naples brothers and the various bombings, could they be referring to the vince deniro or cadillac charlie hits
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I agree, the DeNiro and Cavallaro bombing murders, along with the Billy Naples bombing, are all of a piece of the same pie, and obviously attracted the attention of higher-ups.FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:56 amYes, that makes perfect sense.Stroccos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:16 amit says on the first page of the document , the group is onorata societa , durnig this time was when the bombing war was going on , the naples brothers and the various bombings, could they be referring to the vince deniro or cadillac charlie hits
I went to the Mary Ferrell site, punched in 'Vince DeNiro Bombing' and came up with this first hit, which turns out to be quite the background on the Youngstown underworld in the early 1960's. It's funny that Charlie Carabbia is cited here as one who might meet a certain fate if he continued to run his mouth. Which was the one of the main reasons he was ultimately taken out, but not until 16 years later in 1980.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... %20Bombing
and here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... %20Bombing
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His fatal mistake was keeping the mobs money , couldnt get out of that one, as you said it goes to show they probably wanted to whack him for a long timecoldshoulder wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:11 pmI agree, the DeNiro and Cavallaro bombing murders, along with the Billy Naples bombing, are all of a piece of the same pie, and obviously attracted the attention of higher-ups.FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:56 amYes, that makes perfect sense.Stroccos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:16 amit says on the first page of the document , the group is onorata societa , durnig this time was when the bombing war was going on , the naples brothers and the various bombings, could they be referring to the vince deniro or cadillac charlie hits
I went to the Mary Ferrell site, punched in 'Vince DeNiro Bombing' and came up with this first hit, which turns out to be quite the background on the Youngstown underworld in the early 1960's. It's funny that Charlie Carabbia is cited here as one who might meet a certain fate if he continued to run his mouth. Which was the one of the main reasons he was ultimately taken out, but not until 16 years later in 1980.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... %20Bombing
and here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... %20Bombing
did carabbia have anything to do with any of the naples hits ?
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Keeping the mob's money, Two Gun Jimmy's money, by it self would be a death sentence!Stroccos wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:23 amHis fatal mistake was keeping the mobs money , couldnt get out of that one, as you said it goes to show they probably wanted to whack him for a long timcoldshoulder wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:11 pmI agree, the DeNiro and Cavallaro bombing murders, along with the Billy Naples bombing, are all of a piece of the same pie, and obviously attracted the attention of higher-ups.FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:56 amYes, that makes perfect sense.Stroccos wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:16 amit says on the first page of the document , the group is onorata societa , durnig this time was when the bombing war was going on , the naples brothers and the various bombings, could they be referring to the vince deniro or cadillac charlie hits
I went to the Mary Ferrell site, punched in 'Vince DeNiro Bombing' and came up with this first hit, which turns out to be quite the background on the Youngstown underworld in the early 1960's. It's funny that Charlie Carabbia is cited here as one who might meet a certain fate if he continued to run his mouth. Which was the one of the main reasons he was ultimately taken out, but not until 16 years later in 1980.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... %20Bombing
and here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... %20Bombing
did carabbia have anything to do with any of the naples hits ?
As far as Carabbia having anything to do with any of the Naples hits the only people that know are longer with us
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Tell us some camping stories FohFriendofHenry wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:03 pmLenny and Bernie grew up together as best friends only to have Lenny roll on Bernie for caring out his orders to wack Ernie.
Just curious; anyone besides me know any of these fine fellows? Other than the two Charlies, I knew them all and liked Bernie the most, Lenny the least!
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