Boston sports betting bust

[joeycigars]

I saw this movie ......The ending sucks

[AG777]

I saw this movie ......The ending sucks

Yeah I get it. Probably best for everyone to just get back on track with the thread.

[Wiseguy]

Do you want to know why we believe Cheech? Some of us go by someone's word and rep. Now, on the street all you got is your reputation. So if you have been around street guys like some of us have and that life you take the guy's WORD for it. Your word and rep is EVERYTHING, It's all you got. That's why it's hard for most researchers to believe these guys They don't come to you with facts on paper. But you researchers should not DISMISS what they have to say. It's information.

Ivy you don't feel comfortable with taking the guys word for it and that's okay. You firmly believe what the FBI documents as completely true while at times some of us question them. Also, Cheech is not a wannabe or a bullshitter. His reputation on the boards shows us this. Nobody is wrong here. Let's get that straight. Telling people what they should and should not believe is much too complicated.

I like you Ivy so I'm just trying to answer your question. You do make an excellent point about why throw common sense out the window to trust somebody's WORD. Well, it's part of our upbringing to do so, it's instilled in us. Hope that makes sense.

But we're not "on the street," are we? We're online. So your "a street guy's word and rep is everything he's got" point doesn't really apply here. And, as both Pogo and I keep saying, self-described street guys on the forums are a dime a dozen.

And I didn't just dismiss what Cheech said. I asked him to provide more info about how he is in a position to know more than the feds here. He wouldn't (or couldn't) answer.

As I've said before, I'm happy to take certain long time, proven local guys at their word if it's something that doesn't conflict with the feds. East Bronx (pizzaboy) is one of those. But if the feds do disagree, as he'll tell you, we'll just have to disagree.

[AG777]

Very true Wiseguy, we are not on the street. Fair enough. These forums have people from all walks of life but just a handful of real neighborhood street guys. I trust them. I also believe that you along with other researchers on here are extremely valuable and I trust what you write as being factual to the best of your knowledge.

[Angelo Santino]

Cheech does have a pretty extensive bookmaking background. He could teach a university class on it. And as for street guys, 98 times out of 100 it's bullshit. Pogo knows, he's been here since 2000 or 2001 like I have. You learn to filter that shit out. Honestly in all this time the only legitimate street guy that I've come across has been Dan.

[East Bronx]

As I've said before, I'm happy to take certain long time, proven local guys at their word if it's something that doesn't conflict with the feds. East Bronx (pizzaboy) is one of those. But if the feds do disagree, as he'll tell you, we'll just have to disagree.

Well, thank you, Wiseguy. And we do often agree to disagree out of respect for one another. And that being said, I continually give you your due on the other boards as one of the all time great researchers, and Pogo as the King of the Chart Makers. And you've seen those posts with your own eyes, so you know I'm not just jerking you guys off.

So we can agree to disagree here, or you can take me at my word. I've gotten to know this kid quite well, and we have some mutual friends in Fairfield County. He's actually 35 years old, but I have a terrible habit of referring to anyone younger than I am as a kid. Anyway, all I'm going to say is that Cheech isn't just a statistician or a gambler obsessed with oddsmaking. He knows his way around a sportsbook. If he doesn't want to name names, that's his business. But that's the nature of these boards. We've seen so many bullshit artists come and go that you can never actually be sure who you're talking to. But just like I know you as a straight shooter and a researcher, I know Cheech as well. And like I said, he knows his way around a sportsbook.

@ Soliai: I apologize for my absence. I sent you a pm. Things are finally looking up for my Dad, so I'll be posting more often very soon.