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"Monogamy? Mafia stuff". This time Roberto Saviano amazes everyone and his reflection in the Corriere della Sera is also contested by many of his followers. The editorial by the author of Gomorrah unleashes chaos: "In Italian criminal organizations, the 'rule of monogamy' is still considered the fundamental element for measuring the value and reliability of affiliates". So for Saviano the couple is a symbol of the mafia. And again he comes out saying that "sexuality free from constraints, a body not subjected to the grip of the convention is an anti-mafia act. Indeed it is an anti-mafia act".
Unconvinced by the disconcerting reflection, to say the least, are his followers who comment on social media: "So is respect my partner I must be considered a mobster?"; and again:
"So if I stay faithful to my partner,I'm a mobster?" or "He could have saved this as well" many readers write in the comments without receiving an answer.
Roberto Saviano said that "the monogamy is a mafia stuff"
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Toto Riina was supposedly faithful to his wife. I read somewhere that Tommaso Buscetta laughed at him because of that saying something like he could have any woman he wanted but instead was loyal to his wife. I can't remember where I read that but I always thought that interesting not only that Riina was faithful (if that's true) but that Buscetta would laugh at him for that.furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:37 am https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iltemp ... 16212/amp/
"Monogamy? Mafia stuff". This time Roberto Saviano amazes everyone and his reflection in the Corriere della Sera is also contested by many of his followers. The editorial by the author of Gomorrah unleashes chaos: "In Italian criminal organizations, the 'rule of monogamy' is still considered the fundamental element for measuring the value and reliability of affiliates". So for Saviano the couple is a symbol of the mafia. And again he comes out saying that "sexuality free from constraints, a body not subjected to the grip of the convention is an anti-mafia act. Indeed it is an anti-mafia act".
Unconvinced by the disconcerting reflection, to say the least, are his followers who comment on social media: "So is respect my partner I must be considered a mobster?"; and again:
"So if I stay faithful to my partner,I'm a mobster?" or "He could have saved this as well" many readers write in the comments without receiving an answer.
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Yes was during the maxi trial that Riina refused to speak with Buscetta saying that wasn't "at his height because had too many wifes" so Buscetta replied:mafiastudent wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:11 amToto Riina was supposedly faithful to his wife. I read somewhere that Tommaso Buscetta laughed at him because of that saying something like he could have any woman he wanted but instead was loyal to his wife. I can't remember where I read that but I always thought that interesting not only that Riina was faithful (if that's true) but that Buscetta would laugh at him for that.furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:37 am https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iltemp ... 16212/amp/
"Monogamy? Mafia stuff". This time Roberto Saviano amazes everyone and his reflection in the Corriere della Sera is also contested by many of his followers. The editorial by the author of Gomorrah unleashes chaos: "In Italian criminal organizations, the 'rule of monogamy' is still considered the fundamental element for measuring the value and reliability of affiliates". So for Saviano the couple is a symbol of the mafia. And again he comes out saying that "sexuality free from constraints, a body not subjected to the grip of the convention is an anti-mafia act. Indeed it is an anti-mafia act".
Unconvinced by the disconcerting reflection, to say the least, are his followers who comment on social media: "So is respect my partner I must be considered a mobster?"; and again:
"So if I stay faithful to my partner,I'm a mobster?" or "He could have saved this as well" many readers write in the comments without receiving an answer.
"This individual can speak of morality when he has killed so many innocent people. Where is your morality, Riina? Why did I sleep with your wife? I know why. You were too busy following your mafia career. You were too busy being the star of the Cosa Nostra, so you didn't worry about women, you worried about chasing other things ».
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Palermo, November 1993. Totò Riina is sitting in the cage of the bunker room of the Ucciardone. The president of the court has just accepted the request for what is envisaged as an epic confrontation: that between the former capo dei capi of Cosa, arrested a few months earlier, and the most important mafia pentito, that Tommaso Buscetta whom Riina has massacred the family. Riina has a click. He is agitated, urgently asks to speak. And surprisingly, after requesting it, he refuses the confrontation. "He's not a man for me," he says. "He is not at my stature, he is a man who has too many lovers."
To understand how the monogamous rule has always been the pillar of the mafia - the backbone on which to build the chain of bonds that strangle the life of every affiliate and every territory hegemonized by their empire - we can only start from here . From the moment in which, that is, the man who gave the order to kill Falcone and Borsellino decides to accuse those who accuse him not of being a charlatan, a coup leader, or a murderer (and he could say it: Buscetta had killed men when he was young affiliate). No, the accusation is that of being a man "with too many wives".
For some strange reason, mainly due to American representations of criminal organizations, it is common thought that bosses are dissolute men, womanizers, with vice as a compass ready to guide them.
Yet in Italian criminal organizations, monogamy is still the founding element for measuring the value and reliability of affiliates: each violation is sufficient to decree a death sentence.
The mafias like any other power, by controlling sexuality, they control life, punishing at their own will the sexual behaviors that violate the rules,
they show they can strike at any aspect of life that does not obey their domination. It was Buscetta himself who revealed the rules:
You can't enter in Cosa Nostra if:
you're divorced or son of divorced parents,
make sex with prostitutes,
have "lovers",
has been a member of the National Fascist Party or the Communist Party,
use drugs,
are homosexual.
For this reason, before the astonished judges, Riina - a man accused of hundreds of murders, of murdering innocent people, of having tortured and organized attacks - speaks with a firm voice of his "morality":
“And I began,” he says, “from my family. My grandfather was widowed at forty and had five children included my dad, and he never looked for a wife again. My mother was widowed at thirty-three. We live, in our town, on moral correctness ».
(The confrontation, then before freezing due to Riina had a brief moment in which Buscetta said to Riina: "This individual can speak of morality when he has killed so many innocent people. Where is your morality, Riina? Why did I sleep with your wife? I know why. You were too busy following your mafia career You were too busy being the star of the Cosa Nostra, so you didn't worry about women, you worried about chasing other things »).
The absolute monogamous rule is not limited to the Cosa Nostra.
The boss Paolo Di Lauro decreed very clear rules for his clan.
We doesn't kill each other for money: when there are economic problems,there are a meeting for solve the problem without shoot.
We don't start a war if there is a territorial conflict with another clan, unless all the capos in a meeting would give the authorization.
For Di Lauro's Camorra only in one case you can kill without asking for permission: only one.
When a man is in an out-of-bounds affair, and he courts another affiliate's woman.
In that case, the affilate have the ok with the sole clause of bringing objective evidence that the man flirted with his girlfriend or his wife or his daughter.
In all mafias,even courtship is prohibited:and this from the origin of the mafias to the present day.
In 2001, in the Caserta area, Domenico Bidognetti ordered the murder of Antonio Magliulo because he had dared to woo a girl even though he was married:
Magliulo was tied up on a chair, on the beach, and in front of the sea filled his mouth and nostrils with sand, to the point of strangling him.
Gaetano Formicola, 21 years old at the time, discovers that a his friend Vincenzo Amendola, has started sending his mother messages that are considered advances.
The only idea that the his mother can have a "sexuality" is intolerable, as is the thought that the father, in prison, can learn about it. He lures Vincenzo into the countryside by deceit, makes him kneel in a ditch and shoots him in the head.
Some organizations decide to eliminate those who have "cheated"; others murder both "lovers". The decision is made on the basis of the specific case: the woman is killed when "he would chose another man" (these are the words of Marchese, boss of Cosa Nostra); on the other hand, only the male "traitor" is killed when is thinked that only his murder is enought to interrupt the "shame" by giving a moral lesson to the territory but by saving his wife, daughter, sister.
In any case, there is a sort of criminal solidarity among all the families, which eliminates the "lovers" of the wives and girlfriends of the affiliates in prison. Whoever touches a woman who has her partner in prison must die: under penalty of the risk that without punishment all prisoners will become "cuckolds".
This is the case, for example, of what happened to Rocco Anello, head of the 'ndrina of Filadelfia, in the province of Vibo Valentia. Her wife, Angela Bartucca, left alone at a young age with her husband in prison, had an affair with Santino Panzarella.
When the men of the clan understood it, they beat him to death, and locked him in the trunk of a car waiting to get rid of the body. But he was still alive. When they reopened the hood, he stretched out a leg to keep them from closing. They broke it by hitting us against the hood hatch and finished it off by shooting him in the face.
It was 2002, Santino was 27 years old. Bartucca had another affair, with Valentino Galati, a former seminarian who helped her with the chores when she needed it. When he was discovered, Galati wrote to Anello: "I know that these are mistakes that are paid with the death, come and kill me, because I know this will certainly be your decision".
Again: a few months ago Antonio Abbinante, boss of the Scampia clan of the same name, had already dug a pit where to attract and bury a man, who was later saved by the investigators, with the sole fault of having had an affair with the wife of an inmate.
Maria Buttone, wife of the boss of Marcianise Domenico Belforte,that forced his husband to kill Angela Gentile, with whom he had an affair years ago From this woman, Belforte had a daughter, thirteen at the time of her murder: Buttone welcomed her into the house as if she were her daughter, but the girl's mother had to disappear, to wash her family name.
Like all repressive morals, the violation of monogamy is more tolerated in men.
On two conditions: that the betrayal takes place in absolute secrecy and that, above all, that one remains perfectly pigeon-holed in the traditional roles of male and female. Ferdinando Caristena, a 33-year-old merchant from Gioia Tauro, had started a relationship with the sister of the brother-in-law of the boss Mimmo Molè. Everything was going well: but before the wedding it emerged that, in the past, Caristena had also had sex with men. He said that to his murderers: he was killed in May 1990.
The entire power of revenge and intimidation of the mafia is articulated on the female "betrayal". Angela Costantino was 25 with 4 children. Her Ndrangheta husband Pietro Lo Giudice was in the Palmi super prison: he is destined to remain there for years. So she starts dating a man. She doesn't want to leave her husband: he just wants passion, tenderness, friendship. When her husband's relatives discover her, Angela is strangled. It was 1994, her body was never found.
Rosalia Pipitone,twenty years old, wife and mother, was killed during a robbery in 1983, in Palermo. Years later a pentito, Francesco di Carlo, explained that the robbery was just a cover: it was Lia - "born for freedom, died for her freedom" - the real target. When Ciccio Madonia summoned Lia's mafia father, Nino Pipitone, declaring the need to kill her daughter, "guilty" of treason, it was the her fathert that choose the man who would have carried out the execution. The day after the ambush, the suicide of Lia's "lover" will be staged, thrown from the balcony by two hit men.
And again: Giuseppe Lucchese had his sister-in-law killed in 1984, in the Alba bar in Palermo, because "he allowed himself to be courted" while her husband Antonio was in prison. In 1982 she had killed her sister, Pina because although she was married she had an affair with a neomelodic singer, Giuseppe Marchese, who in turn was murdered, hugged and found with his genitals in his mouth.
It should not be a surprise that often the family of the "cheating" woman decrees the sentence: giving the death order of one's relative means cleaning up one's own name, not delegating the task to others and above all showing everyone that nothing is forgiven to those who violate the code of honor.
As happened in 1995 to Alessandro Alleruzzo, son of the boss Santo known as «the viper», who led the Paternò family of Cosa Nostra.
Her sister Nunzia, after leaving her husband, had decided not to have a new exclusive relationship. Alleruzzo took her to the countryside, scolded her for going out a few evenings with different men while her children were entrusted to her grandmother; then - while he was standing behind her, unable to hold her gaze - he killed her with a bullet in the head.
Some women, in these dynamics of terror, choose to become executioners before becoming victims: at the end of the Eighties camorrista Nicola Nuzzo was hammered to death in a Roman clinic on the orders of his wife, Carmela Frezza De Rosa. Nuzzo had discovered that she was having an affair with the family doctor: the woman feared revenge on herself and on her children, so having her husband killed seemed to be her only way out. The honor of the family was avenged by Nuzzo's rising brother, Raffaele, who had the doctor killed.
Palermo, November 1993. Totò Riina is sitting in the cage of the bunker room of the Ucciardone. The president of the court has just accepted the request for what is envisaged as an epic confrontation: that between the former capo dei capi of Cosa, arrested a few months earlier, and the most important mafia pentito, that Tommaso Buscetta whom Riina has massacred the family. Riina has a click. He is agitated, urgently asks to speak. And surprisingly, after requesting it, he refuses the confrontation. "He's not a man for me," he says. "He is not at my stature, he is a man who has too many lovers."
To understand how the monogamous rule has always been the pillar of the mafia - the backbone on which to build the chain of bonds that strangle the life of every affiliate and every territory hegemonized by their empire - we can only start from here . From the moment in which, that is, the man who gave the order to kill Falcone and Borsellino decides to accuse those who accuse him not of being a charlatan, a coup leader, or a murderer (and he could say it: Buscetta had killed men when he was young affiliate). No, the accusation is that of being a man "with too many wives".
For some strange reason, mainly due to American representations of criminal organizations, it is common thought that bosses are dissolute men, womanizers, with vice as a compass ready to guide them.
Yet in Italian criminal organizations, monogamy is still the founding element for measuring the value and reliability of affiliates: each violation is sufficient to decree a death sentence.
The mafias like any other power, by controlling sexuality, they control life, punishing at their own will the sexual behaviors that violate the rules,
they show they can strike at any aspect of life that does not obey their domination. It was Buscetta himself who revealed the rules:
You can't enter in Cosa Nostra if:
you're divorced or son of divorced parents,
make sex with prostitutes,
have "lovers",
has been a member of the National Fascist Party or the Communist Party,
use drugs,
are homosexual.
For this reason, before the astonished judges, Riina - a man accused of hundreds of murders, of murdering innocent people, of having tortured and organized attacks - speaks with a firm voice of his "morality":
“And I began,” he says, “from my family. My grandfather was widowed at forty and had five children included my dad, and he never looked for a wife again. My mother was widowed at thirty-three. We live, in our town, on moral correctness ».
(The confrontation, then before freezing due to Riina had a brief moment in which Buscetta said to Riina: "This individual can speak of morality when he has killed so many innocent people. Where is your morality, Riina? Why did I sleep with your wife? I know why. You were too busy following your mafia career You were too busy being the star of the Cosa Nostra, so you didn't worry about women, you worried about chasing other things »).
The absolute monogamous rule is not limited to the Cosa Nostra.
The boss Paolo Di Lauro decreed very clear rules for his clan.
We doesn't kill each other for money: when there are economic problems,there are a meeting for solve the problem without shoot.
We don't start a war if there is a territorial conflict with another clan, unless all the capos in a meeting would give the authorization.
For Di Lauro's Camorra only in one case you can kill without asking for permission: only one.
When a man is in an out-of-bounds affair, and he courts another affiliate's woman.
In that case, the affilate have the ok with the sole clause of bringing objective evidence that the man flirted with his girlfriend or his wife or his daughter.
In all mafias,even courtship is prohibited:and this from the origin of the mafias to the present day.
In 2001, in the Caserta area, Domenico Bidognetti ordered the murder of Antonio Magliulo because he had dared to woo a girl even though he was married:
Magliulo was tied up on a chair, on the beach, and in front of the sea filled his mouth and nostrils with sand, to the point of strangling him.
Gaetano Formicola, 21 years old at the time, discovers that a his friend Vincenzo Amendola, has started sending his mother messages that are considered advances.
The only idea that the his mother can have a "sexuality" is intolerable, as is the thought that the father, in prison, can learn about it. He lures Vincenzo into the countryside by deceit, makes him kneel in a ditch and shoots him in the head.
Some organizations decide to eliminate those who have "cheated"; others murder both "lovers". The decision is made on the basis of the specific case: the woman is killed when "he would chose another man" (these are the words of Marchese, boss of Cosa Nostra); on the other hand, only the male "traitor" is killed when is thinked that only his murder is enought to interrupt the "shame" by giving a moral lesson to the territory but by saving his wife, daughter, sister.
In any case, there is a sort of criminal solidarity among all the families, which eliminates the "lovers" of the wives and girlfriends of the affiliates in prison. Whoever touches a woman who has her partner in prison must die: under penalty of the risk that without punishment all prisoners will become "cuckolds".
This is the case, for example, of what happened to Rocco Anello, head of the 'ndrina of Filadelfia, in the province of Vibo Valentia. Her wife, Angela Bartucca, left alone at a young age with her husband in prison, had an affair with Santino Panzarella.
When the men of the clan understood it, they beat him to death, and locked him in the trunk of a car waiting to get rid of the body. But he was still alive. When they reopened the hood, he stretched out a leg to keep them from closing. They broke it by hitting us against the hood hatch and finished it off by shooting him in the face.
It was 2002, Santino was 27 years old. Bartucca had another affair, with Valentino Galati, a former seminarian who helped her with the chores when she needed it. When he was discovered, Galati wrote to Anello: "I know that these are mistakes that are paid with the death, come and kill me, because I know this will certainly be your decision".
Again: a few months ago Antonio Abbinante, boss of the Scampia clan of the same name, had already dug a pit where to attract and bury a man, who was later saved by the investigators, with the sole fault of having had an affair with the wife of an inmate.
Maria Buttone, wife of the boss of Marcianise Domenico Belforte,that forced his husband to kill Angela Gentile, with whom he had an affair years ago From this woman, Belforte had a daughter, thirteen at the time of her murder: Buttone welcomed her into the house as if she were her daughter, but the girl's mother had to disappear, to wash her family name.
Like all repressive morals, the violation of monogamy is more tolerated in men.
On two conditions: that the betrayal takes place in absolute secrecy and that, above all, that one remains perfectly pigeon-holed in the traditional roles of male and female. Ferdinando Caristena, a 33-year-old merchant from Gioia Tauro, had started a relationship with the sister of the brother-in-law of the boss Mimmo Molè. Everything was going well: but before the wedding it emerged that, in the past, Caristena had also had sex with men. He said that to his murderers: he was killed in May 1990.
The entire power of revenge and intimidation of the mafia is articulated on the female "betrayal". Angela Costantino was 25 with 4 children. Her Ndrangheta husband Pietro Lo Giudice was in the Palmi super prison: he is destined to remain there for years. So she starts dating a man. She doesn't want to leave her husband: he just wants passion, tenderness, friendship. When her husband's relatives discover her, Angela is strangled. It was 1994, her body was never found.
Rosalia Pipitone,twenty years old, wife and mother, was killed during a robbery in 1983, in Palermo. Years later a pentito, Francesco di Carlo, explained that the robbery was just a cover: it was Lia - "born for freedom, died for her freedom" - the real target. When Ciccio Madonia summoned Lia's mafia father, Nino Pipitone, declaring the need to kill her daughter, "guilty" of treason, it was the her fathert that choose the man who would have carried out the execution. The day after the ambush, the suicide of Lia's "lover" will be staged, thrown from the balcony by two hit men.
And again: Giuseppe Lucchese had his sister-in-law killed in 1984, in the Alba bar in Palermo, because "he allowed himself to be courted" while her husband Antonio was in prison. In 1982 she had killed her sister, Pina because although she was married she had an affair with a neomelodic singer, Giuseppe Marchese, who in turn was murdered, hugged and found with his genitals in his mouth.
It should not be a surprise that often the family of the "cheating" woman decrees the sentence: giving the death order of one's relative means cleaning up one's own name, not delegating the task to others and above all showing everyone that nothing is forgiven to those who violate the code of honor.
As happened in 1995 to Alessandro Alleruzzo, son of the boss Santo known as «the viper», who led the Paternò family of Cosa Nostra.
Her sister Nunzia, after leaving her husband, had decided not to have a new exclusive relationship. Alleruzzo took her to the countryside, scolded her for going out a few evenings with different men while her children were entrusted to her grandmother; then - while he was standing behind her, unable to hold her gaze - he killed her with a bullet in the head.
Some women, in these dynamics of terror, choose to become executioners before becoming victims: at the end of the Eighties camorrista Nicola Nuzzo was hammered to death in a Roman clinic on the orders of his wife, Carmela Frezza De Rosa. Nuzzo had discovered that she was having an affair with the family doctor: the woman feared revenge on herself and on her children, so having her husband killed seemed to be her only way out. The honor of the family was avenged by Nuzzo's rising brother, Raffaele, who had the doctor killed.